So, in other words, they have an agenda. And people have this
incredible ability to do whatever it takes to push their agenda.

I am just as leery of these folks' account of the events as I am of Israel's

On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Eric Roberts
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I would say they have more of a reason to just be truthful as they are
> trying to add legitimacy to their claims and gain world support to end the
> illegal blockade of Gaza.  I would say this especially in the light of
> Israeli claims that have been shown to be false and manipulated.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 11:37 AM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Israel attacks and kills peace activists in international
> waters.
>
>
> I understand your position there, but is it not a bit naive to think
> that those on the other side do not have an agenda and to accept
> everything they say as the full, complete, unbiased account of the
> events?
>
> Do you really think that CNN, or any other news agency, does not have
> an agenda or a bias?
>
> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Eric Roberts
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> It would depend on the source.  If it came from the Israeli
> government...no.
>> I don’t trust anything coming out of that government.  They have already
>> demonstrated that they are willing to lie and modify things to make look
>> favorable to them.  I kinda look at them like I look at Fox News.  I will
>> give you the benefit of the doubt until you prove me wrong.  Israel has
> lied
>> and misled with their press releases and thus proven me wrong.  You get
> one
>> chance.  Destroy that trust and you are hard pressed to get it back.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 11:23 AM
>> To: cf-community
>> Subject: Re: Israel attacks and kills peace activists in international
>> waters.
>>
>>
>> Somehow I do not think you would be so quick to accept 'testimony'
>> from 3 Israeli soldiers as 'corroboration'.
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Eric Roberts
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Eyewitness accounts that tell the same story...that's called
>> corroboration.
>>> Add that to the fact that we know for a fact that the Israelis doctored
>>> footage.  Makes the passengers much more of a reliable witness to the
>>> events.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 11:06 AM
>>> To: cf-community
>>> Subject: Re: Israel attacks and kills peace activists in international
>>> waters.
>>>
>>>
>>> And I am sure the news producer from Al Jazeera and those involved are
>>> giving a completely unbiased accounts of what happened.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Eric Roberts
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Some accounts of passengers on the aid ship...these are all British
>>>> citizens...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWYKHcwrak0
>>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Gp8ECrDQLg&feature=watch_response
>>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8i5VzDH8SDU&feature=related
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: denstar [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 9:48 PM
>>>> To: cf-community
>>>> Subject: Re: Israel attacks and kills peace activists in international
>>>> waters.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Maureen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> It's especially bothersome that so much of the current rhetoric is
>>>>> based on disinformation.  I found this article particularly
>>>>> enlightening.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/06/04/MNR51DPCVM.DTL
>>>>
>>>> You don't say!
>>>>
>>>> :Den
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> The truth is a snare: you cannot have it, without being caught. You
>>>> cannot have the truth in such a way that you catch it, but only in
>>>> such a way that it catches you.
>>>> Soren Kierkegaar
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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