I think a lot of people can agree that there may have been better (or smarter) ways to accomplish this.
I honestly do not think this was their intention. I think their intention was to provoke Israel, nothing else. They succeeded in that. And Israel succeeded in over reacting to the provocation. On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Eric Roberts <[email protected]> wrote: > > The better action is to break the blockade and shed as much light on it as > possible....otherwise nothing will improve. Just going through normal > channels, which people don't trust in the first place...is continuing the > status quo. > > -----Original Message----- > From: G Money [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 12:05 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Israel attacks and kills peace activists in international > waters. > > > As well you should be. Eric, you should be too. > > If these people's #1 concern was helping the residents of Gaza, they would > have sent their supplies through the existing channels to ensure they made > it to the people who are suffering, then challenged the blockade in some > other fashion. > > If, instead, their #1 agenda item was to create a situation with Israel that > shined a light on it's blockade, they would have tried to get their goods > through the blockade. > > Guess which method they chose. > > Just something to keep in mind. There's no altruism here. > > > On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> So, in other words, they have an agenda. And people have this >> incredible ability to do whatever it takes to push their agenda. >> >> I am just as leery of these folks' account of the events as I am of >> Israel's >> >> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Eric Roberts >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > I would say they have more of a reason to just be truthful as they are >> > trying to add legitimacy to their claims and gain world support to end >> the >> > illegal blockade of Gaza. I would say this especially in the light of >> > Israeli claims that have been shown to be false and manipulated. >> > >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[email protected]] >> > Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 11:37 AM >> > To: cf-community >> > Subject: Re: Israel attacks and kills peace activists in international >> > waters. >> > >> > >> > I understand your position there, but is it not a bit naive to think >> > that those on the other side do not have an agenda and to accept >> > everything they say as the full, complete, unbiased account of the >> > events? >> > >> > Do you really think that CNN, or any other news agency, does not have >> > an agenda or a bias? >> > >> > On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Eric Roberts >> > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> It would depend on the source. If it came from the Israeli >> > government...no. >> >> I don't trust anything coming out of that government. They have > already >> >> demonstrated that they are willing to lie and modify things to make > look >> >> favorable to them. I kinda look at them like I look at Fox News. I >> will >> >> give you the benefit of the doubt until you prove me wrong. Israel has >> > lied >> >> and misled with their press releases and thus proven me wrong. You get >> > one >> >> chance. Destroy that trust and you are hard pressed to get it back. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[email protected]] >> >> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 11:23 AM >> >> To: cf-community >> >> Subject: Re: Israel attacks and kills peace activists in international >> >> waters. >> >> >> >> >> >> Somehow I do not think you would be so quick to accept 'testimony' >> >> from 3 Israeli soldiers as 'corroboration'. >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Eric Roberts >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Eyewitness accounts that tell the same story...that's called >> >> corroboration. >> >>> Add that to the fact that we know for a fact that the Israelis > doctored >> >>> footage. Makes the passengers much more of a reliable witness to the >> >>> events. >> >>> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >> >>> From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[email protected]] >> >>> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 11:06 AM >> >>> To: cf-community >> >>> Subject: Re: Israel attacks and kills peace activists in international >> >>> waters. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> And I am sure the news producer from Al Jazeera and those involved are >> >>> giving a completely unbiased accounts of what happened. >> >>> >> >>> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Eric Roberts >> >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> Some accounts of passengers on the aid ship...these are all British >> >>>> citizens... >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWYKHcwrak0 >> >>>> >> >>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Gp8ECrDQLg&feature=watch_response >> >>>> >> >>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8i5VzDH8SDU&feature=related >> >>>> >> >>>> -----Original Message----- >> >>>> From: denstar [mailto:[email protected]] >> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 9:48 PM >> >>>> To: cf-community >> >>>> Subject: Re: Israel attacks and kills peace activists in > international >> >>>> waters. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Maureen wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> It's especially bothersome that so much of the current rhetoric is >> >>>>> based on disinformation. I found this article particularly >> >>>>> enlightening. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>> >> > >> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/06/04/MNR51DPCVM.DTL >> >>>> >> >>>> You don't say! >> >>>> >> >>>> :Den >> >>>> >> >>>> -- >> >>>> The truth is a snare: you cannot have it, without being caught. You >> >>>> cannot have the truth in such a way that you catch it, but only in >> >>>> such a way that it catches you. >> >>>> Soren Kierkegaar >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:320868 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
