Anti-Semitism...in its popular usage is being anti-Jewish, not
anti-Israeli...though many like to make Israel=Jew and then jumping to the
conclusion that if you are anti-Israeli mean you are anti-Semite.  It's
misused and abused as much as the race card is.  Being a citizen of Israel
also doesn't guarantee being Jewish as there are some Muslim and Christian
Israelis (and I am sure other faiths as well).  Manyh of the Muslim Israelis
claim that they are not treated the same as Jewish Israelis.  There was an
article posted today on CNN about how Arab Israeli politicians have been
receive a more than normal amount of death threats.

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 2:42 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Israel attacks and kills peace activists in international
waters.


Maybe I just do not know enough about the situation, but to me being
Jewish does not make you an Israeli.

In my mind, Jewish  = follows Judaism, Israeli == citizen of Israel -
( and most likely Jewish )

On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Eric Roberts
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> But Irish can also be Protestant and still be Irish...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 2:25 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Israel attacks and kills peace activists in international
> waters.
>
>
> I can agree that 'Jewishness' may transcend religious belief, but
> would disagree that it is more of a cultural thing than other
> 'religions' - two words come to mind to help support that 'Irish
> Catholic' :D
>
> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Eric Roberts
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> With "Jewishness" ( for lack of a better term if that is even a proper
>> word), it transcends religious belief as it is even more of a cultural
> thing
>> than being Catholic or Baptist.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 2:08 PM
>> To: cf-community
>> Subject: Re: Israel attacks and kills peace activists in international
>> waters.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Eric Roberts
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Actually I had stated that more than a few times...most recently in a
>>> discussion about genealogy.  I am not religiously Jewish...I am Pagan.
>  My
>>> family is of Jewish descent and if you go by Jewish law, because my
>>> grandmother was Jewish, which makes my mother Jewish, that makes me
>> Jewish.
>>> Being anti-Israel has nothing to do with being anti-Semitic.  As I have
>>> posted before, there are large quantities of Jews who are not
pro-Israel.
>>> Calling someone anti-Semitic for being anti-Israeli is a straw man and a
>>> logical fallacy.
>>
>> Yea, my bad, used the wrong (really wrong) word there.
>>
>> In my mind, if you do not practice a particular religion, you really
>> have no right to give yourself that label, and I understand what you
>> said about Jewish Law, but you do not practice Judaism, so its a bit
>> misleading to label yourself as being 'Jewish' - especially when those
>> 'laws' are for a religion that you willingly chose not to practice.
>>
>> I have been baptized, confirmed, and married in a Catholic church,
>> but, I do not consider myself a Catholic because I am not a practicing
>> Catholic. When people ask, I tell them 'I was raised Catholic', but I
>> would never make a statement like 'I am Catholic' when I feel it helps
>> my argument and then hope no one calls me on it.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Scott Stroz
>> ---------------
>> You can make things happen, you can watch things happen or you can
>> wonder what the f*&k happened. - Cpt. Phil Harris
>>
>> http://xkcd.com/3
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> 



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