In other words, I've got mine so screw you. Classic conservative argument, dress up greed and self-centered behavior as virtuous and moral.
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Jerry Barnes <[email protected]> wrote: > > "I pay taxes as a form of charity. I probably could have figured some way > around that. I doubt I'll ever die, ether." > > Well, if it makes you feel better, that's a good way to look at it. > > > "With the government-- it tries so hard to be fair, it's unfair." > > Amen. > > > "Charity" ain't like that. You can't sue a church for not giving you soup-- > there's no accountability. =)" > > Yes, there is. You hold the charity accountable. Don't give if they don't > live up to your standards. Think of the United Way. Years ago, the > director got busted for taking first class flights and such. Donations went > down dramatically. > > > > "And aren't we like, paying less taxes than ever before, or something like > that? Where's that damn graph..." > > No. Remember, the temporary income tax is less than 100 years old. > > > > "*sob*! I'm crying with laughter. The country was *sooooo* fiscally > responsible before The One." > > Wrong. Not even close. Our country has been fiscally irresponsible for > decades. And like I said, I don't blame the One for my losses. It was 100% > my fault. > > > > "We had a surplus, right? That was thanks to "conservative" ideals, neh?" > > No. There haven't been conservative ideals in office for decades. > > > "I don't want or expect the government to help me one bit either, ... " > > Kudos > > > "...tho I suspect the difference between you and I, is that I don't mind if > the government helps other folk. Even if, *gasp* it spends my hard-earned > money to do so." > > Exactly. I want to help people with my hard earned money directly. Take > out the proxy altogether, especially considering the waste and bureaucracy > my money would have to go through if it went through the government. > > > "Heh. Churches had to reform their welfare too. Now they ask for IDs and > whatnot more often than not. So they know you ain't just some local bum, > abusing The System." > > It's a sign of the times. > > On a tangent involving churches and private charities versus government > charity: Government charity removes all moral components from receiving > charity. There is no moral code of conduct that is expected. Also, charity > is soon viewed as an entitlement, so gratitude is removed. If the charity > is removed, resentment sets in. > > > > "Although, hell, maybe you ain't arguing that folk are generally leeches?" > > Nope. I honestly believe most people want to be left alone. Sometimes they > need a hand. It should be up to you and me as individuals to help out. > > > "Maybe you believe that people are generally decent, and just have this odd > idea that it's fine to spend money on stuff like bullets & bombs, but > spending it on bread & medicine is crazy talk? Because /that/ will be > abused. Unlike, say, deals for making assault rifles, boots, and bullet > proof vests." > > I never said anything about bullets and bombs. Of course, the way things > are running in metropolitan area projects, it might be a good idea to hand > out bullet proof vests, rifles, and boots. > > And, if you want to way in on military expenditures, I don't have problem > with that. But don't single out just military. Look at all of the other > areas where the government spends. > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:323911 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
