"Yeah, and we could do stuff like not give to a charity if they help gay people!"
If you so chose. Likewise, gay people could choose to not help breeders. "But The Marxist didn't help, eh? That was when debt became 'bad'." Debt has always been bad. On a personal level and on a federal level. "Not even the first Bush?" Read my lips, "No new taxes". No, not a big fan of George the first. "You know some people are so rich, they can live off the interest on their money?" Yes they can. Some of these rich have started organizations to help others. For example, the Ford Foundation. "Taking stuff for granted isn't something limited to government charity. And we already covered that abuse isn't limited to government charity either." You're right. However, when fraud is discovered with a private organization, I can pick a new charity. I can't stop paying taxes without going to jail. "Plus there's that whole deal about Churches and Taxes, and not-exactly-transparent book-keeping." All nonprofit organization, including the unions and the federal gov't, should have 100% transparent finances. "At least with the government, we've got a chance to follow along at home, so to speak." Is that a joke? "You and I alone can't do nearly as much as millions of people together." Ah. I kind of meant that as a kumbaya movement, were all people chip in. Not just you and me. Yeah, you and me alone couldn't do much. "Some people argue that we could wipe out starvation and whatnot, if we wanted to." Yes we probably could. Alas, it won't happen. Governments and warlords get in the way. "I don't recall you raging against the war machine when it went a rumbling through our finances. Demanding cuts to defense spending until we had our budget under control, etc.." Nope. I didn't rage against them. I bet you don't recall me supporting them either. I don't say much about military spending. It's easy for it to be the whipping boy for liberals, but it's not the only area where spending is out of control. Control the spending across the board. "Note my reference to crappy defense contracts. You already know how I feel about Big Business and the Government. Is welfare *really* the main reason we're in the red?" Lord no, it's not the only reason. But it does seem to be front and foremost in the politics. Redistribution of wealth seems to be a recurring point these days. And it's hard to draw the line between big business and big government these days. "You sound like a real conservative." I like to think of myself as a conservative libertarian. "But you're kidding yourself if you think even 10% of the other 'conservatives' share your beliefs." Let me change one word in your sentence and I'll say I agree with it 100%. Change "conservatives" to "Republicans". "Mention cuts to the military and see how far you get. Even if you're all like, 'but it's just one piece to my proposed budget reform!'." Same with social security, medicare, welfare, and so on. Everybody is for lower taxes unless it effects them directly. Nobody is for higher taxes unless they benefit directly. J - The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. I think myself that we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious. - Thomas Jefferson ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:323942 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
