"My point is that it's not communism, it's our 'nature'."

Maybe to some extent.  But what makes that nature grow at an exponential
rate and kill 20 millions verses a village?


"I'm saying that I don't see this as a reflection on/of communism.  Or the
'ideal' of communism, if you prefer."

You're right.  It is not the ideal.  "From each according to his ability, to
each according to his need"  sounds great.  It just doesn't work.  It cannot
take into account human nature, mainly greed and self-interest.


"That was a theme I enjoyed from 'the Celestine Prophesy'-- the idea that
we're supposed to learn from those Native American Commies who 'pulled it
off', so to speak."

It was probably easier to pull off in small tribes where a unjust leader
could be slain by an up and coming warrior.


"Yet Hitler wasn't fond of Communism.  What's the deal with that?"

He was a megalomaniac.  He did want to share power with other elites, let
alone the masses.


"Just a silly way of saying that Communism and Socialism aren't
interchangeable"

No they aren't.  Wasn't my intention.  They come from the same root though.
They both assert that goods and services produced by an economy should be
owned publicly, and controlled and planned by a centralized organization.


"Eh.  Responsibility is an odd deal.  How long is the chain?"

Great question.  Comes up all of the time all over the political spectrum,
especially in race reparations.


"If I buy shoes from someplace that buys shoes from someplace that buys
shoes from sweat shops... Do I give a damn?"

Kind of like a hamburger.  Do you really want to think about where it came
from while you're eating it?


J

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No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in
session. - Mark Twain

The artificial aristocracy is a mischievous ingredient in government, and
provisions should be made to prevent its ascendancy. - Thomas Jefferson


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