On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 4:45 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "My point is that it's not communism, it's our 'nature'." > > Maybe to some extent. But what makes that nature grow at an exponential > rate and kill 20 millions verses a village?
Not communism. Nor it's ideals. "Treating" communism is like treating a symptom-- where a better solution, is getting rid of stagnant pools of water, so to speak. Addressing our animal traits, maybe. We've been making progress-- much as some folk think the only answer is God. > "I'm saying that I don't see this as a reflection on/of communism. Or the > 'ideal' of communism, if you prefer." > > You're right. It is not the ideal. "From each according to his ability, to > each according to his need" sounds great. It just doesn't work. It cannot > take into account human nature, mainly greed and self-interest. Sort of like the Tea Party Contract you posted, neh? Rather simplistic logic, that just doesn't work at our current level of evolution/enlightenment. > "That was a theme I enjoyed from 'the Celestine Prophesy'-- the idea that > we're supposed to learn from those Native American Commies who 'pulled it > off', so to speak." > > It was probably easier to pull off in small tribes where a unjust leader > could be slain by an up and coming warrior. Maybe. I think there's something to learn from everything. Especially some stuff. ... > "Just a silly way of saying that Communism and Socialism aren't > interchangeable" > > No they aren't. Wasn't my intention. They come from the same root though. > They both assert that goods and services produced by an economy should be > owned publicly, and controlled and planned by a centralized organization. Everything comes from the same root, if you follow the branches back long enough. Or so they say. Who do you think owns the land? > "Eh. Responsibility is an odd deal. How long is the chain?" > > Great question. Comes up all of the time all over the political spectrum, > especially in race reparations. It's a doozy. Like the question of ownership. Especially fun is Intellectual Property. > > "If I buy shoes from someplace that buys shoes from someplace that buys > shoes from sweat shops... Do I give a damn?" > > Kind of like a hamburger. Do you really want to think about where it came > from while you're eating it? I don't know if it's a matter of want. I think about the number of roaches and rat poop that is allowed by the FDA whenever I eat anything. The animal in me thinks ignorance is bliss, but the more enlightened bits would rather know. But really know, vs. attributing observed behavior X to the Gods, or, Communism. :Den -- It is not death, it is dying that alarms me. Michel ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:326284 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
