forgot to mention the NPR site also has a point by point comparison of
various EU countries, Switzerland, Japan and the US in terms of health
care coverage and costs:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=110997469

On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected]> wrote:
> Do you have any idea what the European nations have for health care?
> France's is very different than England's, and both are very different
> than Germany's. Before you start ranting about European socialist
> medical care, you really ought to know what you're talking about.
>
> Yes Britain's health care system is government run. Germany's isn't.
> It uses a network of employer sponsored or small group sponsored
> health care insurance. The federal German government is not involved
> beyond a regulatory role. Here's a bit more information about it,
> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=91971406
>
> I suggest that you read this article (and the entire series actually)
> before you comment further. At least that way you will be at least a
> bit informed and less likely to contribute to the right wing
> misinformation campaign.
>
> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 9:07 AM, Jerry Barnes <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> "The representatives never listen to their constituents.  They listen to
>> whomever is putting the most money in their pockets.  Still doesn't make
>> them socialists."
>>
>> Sometimes they listen.  Representatives usually listen for  a small time
>> frame every two years.  Senators listen during a small window every six
>> years.  One term presidents listen during a small window once.
>>
>>
>> "This bill has much more to do with corporate lobbying than with party
>> politics."
>>
>> You seem to be assuming corporate lobbying and party politics are disjoint.
>> They are so entwined,  it's hard to say where one ends and the other begins.
>>
>>
>> "It still has nothing to do with socialism."
>>
>> Ahh, but it does.  The bill itself is a socialist ideal.  The health care
>> system will come to resemble European health care systems unless the bill is
>> repealed.
>>
>>
>> J
>>
>> -
>>
>> No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in
>> session. - Mark Twain
>>
>> The artificial aristocracy is a mischievous ingredient in government, and
>> provisions should be made to prevent its ascendancy. - Thomas Jefferson
>>
>>
>> 

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