I don't have the time to continue this conversation, but the only reference
I could find is that I mentioned the hypocracy of it when you find it
perfectly acceptible to engage in personal attack but take exception wwhen
are handled the same.

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Larry C. Lyons
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 4:05 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Librals Suck ~ lol
> 
> 
> Sorry Larry, even Beth remembers that one.  I don't save my 
> email from this list as we have a quota here.
> 
> <cf_snip_from_Beth>
> This liberal pansy felt strongly that Larry calling you a 
> conservative asshole was completely uncalled for, but I do 
> recall in the conversation the name calling went both ways, no?
> </cf_snip_from_Beth>
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 3:00 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Librals Suck ~ lol
> 
> I never called you such. Please produce the email in full 
> quote. Do not put
> words into my mouth.
> 
> --
> Larry C. Lyons
> ColdFusion/Web Developer
> Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer
> EBStor.com
> 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204
> Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795
> tel:   (703) 393-7930
> fax:   (703) 393-2659
> Web:   http://www.ebstor.com
>        http://www.pacel.com
> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done.
> --
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 3:34 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: Librals Suck ~ lol
> > 
> > 
> > I wasn't saying you were stating your political ideology, but 
> > rather you seem to tear down people and yell at them when the 
> > make fun of or call someone a name, such as a "liberal 
> > pansy".  I didn't see you yell at Larry when he called me a 
> > "conservative a**hole".  I am just pointing out your 
> > inconsistencies in regards to who you yell at, and they all 
> > happen to be cases where a person who has a conservative view 
> > point calling someone with a liberal view point a name or 
> > criticizing their ideology in a manner you deem rude or 
> > crude, rather than in all cases, which to me seems hypocritical.
> > 
> > 
> > Kevin
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 12:58 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: Librals Suck ~ lol
> > 
> > Kevin-
> > 
> > I was not stating my political ideology.
> > 
> > Nate appears to be new to the list.
> > 
> > I was careful in my post to Nate to point out the 
> > divergent views on the list and the tradition of not 
> > calling names.
> > 
> > If you want to call me a hypocrite, you are entitled to 
> > your opinion. I am entitled to mine.
> > 
> > -Ben
> > 
> > > Ben,
> > > 
> > > ostracize
> > > 
> > > v 1: expel from a community or group [syn: banish, ban, 
> > shun, cast out, 
> > > blackball] 
> > > 
> > > 2: avoid speaking to or dealing with; "Ever since I spoke 
> > up, my colleagues 
> > > ostracize me" [syn: ostracise] 
> > > Source: WordNet � 1.6, � 1997 Princeton University
> > > 
> > > I seem to remember that when I called Larry a particular 
> > name you said you would 
> > > no longer read any of my emails.  Please read number 2 
> from above.  
> > > 
> > > Once again, I question who you "call out" when a particular 
> > name is leveled 
> > > against someone who shares your political ideology.  If you 
> > really mean what you 
> > > say you would act out accordingly when the shoe is on the 
> > other foot and someone 
> > > who shares your ideology levels a name at someone who doesn't.  
> > > 
> > > PS Since you are so good at looking up words in the 
> > dictionary, try this one: 
> > > hypocrite.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 12:30 PM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: RE: Librals Suck ~ lol
> > > 
> > > Kevin-
> > > 
> > > Main Entry: os�tra�cism 
> > > Pronunciation: '�s-tr&-"si-z&m
> > > Function: noun
> > > Date: 1588
> > > 1 : a method of temporary banishment by popular vote 
> > > without trial or special accusation practiced in ancient 
> > > Greece
> > > 2 : exclusion by general consent from common privileges 
> > > or social acceptance 
> > > 
> > > I am not ostracizing anyone.
> > > 
> > > I have not sought banishment or exclusion of Nate, I 
> > > asked him not to call names.
> > > 
> > > -Ben
> > > 
> > > > Ben,
> > > > 
> > > > I think we both know, that the name calling has gone both 
> > ways on this
> > > > list.  I myself have been guilty of it, however I have 
> > yet to see you
> > > > ostracize someone when the person guilty of the name calling was
> > > > pointing it in the direction of someone with a more 
> > conservative view
> > > > point.
> > > > 
> > > > Kevin
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 12:17 PM
> > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > Subject: Re: Librals Suck ~ lol
> > > > 
> > > > Nate-
> > > > 
> > > > Where do you get off calling names ("pansy liberals")?
> > > > 
> > > > We have a strong tradition on this list of agreeing to 
> > > > disagree, but respecting each others' opinions.
> > > > 
> > > > Some of the people on this lists are liberals, some are 
> > > > moderates, some are conservatives.
> > > > 
> > > > We have some lively discussions, but not name-calling.
> > > > 
> > > > Also, your venting might benefit from use of a spell 
> > > > checker.  
> > > > 
> > > > -Ben
> > > > 
> > > > > Regardless, charges would need to be brought forward 
> > for such a case
> > > > to be
> > > > > brought to court.  If consensual, who is filling the charges ?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Your parents against your gf or bf ?   I guess you 
> > should have payed
> > > > more
> > > > > attention to their rules.  Also - likely this would be 
> > dropped, and if
> > > > not -
> > > > > sentanced with a probation or community service, as 
> > minors wouldn't be
> > > > > charged as adults for such an act.
> > > > > 
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Beth F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 11:22 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: Librals Suck ~ lol
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > -----
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hmmm, how old where you and your girlfriend when 
> > ....? Both over
> > > > 18?
> > > > > > > Even if it was consensual, I presume it was :), was 
> > it legal?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Most states in the US have a consensual age of 16.  
> > This means that
> > > > an
> > > > > adult
> > > > > > can't have sex with anyone under this age legally. It 
> > does NOT mean
> > > > that
> > > > > two
> > > > > > 14 year olds doing it is illegal.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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