On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Sam wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 1:11 PM, denstar wrote: > >> Holier than thou kinda sucks. Especially when you're not very holy. > > Is that supposed to be me?
We're talking about Democrats and Republicans, or maybe Liberals and Conservatives. No, not you. =) >> He's one dude. I'm talking party platforms. What is the Republican >> stance on gay marriage? Abortion? Welfare? > > Those aren't moral issues. How is gay marriage not a moral issue? You think it's a health issue? Infrastructural? >> And are you *chucking kidding* me about the "morals" angle? Remember >> Family Values? Have the Republicans abandoned that? What about >> faith-based initiatives? Prayer in schools? > > Isn't Obama extending the faith based initiatives? You should be outraged. > What prayer in school? Are you talking about prayer rooms with arrows > pointing to Mecca? We're talking party platforms now, try to keep up. =) Are Democrats in favor of faith based initiatives? As in favor as the Republicans, you think? >> Your party screwed us over for 8 years, man, with long lasting >> effects. Seems like the Republicans make a mess, and then the >> Democrats clean it up. Only it's never as clean as it was before the >> Republicans messed with it. =)p > > I was happy, now I'm not. I guess we can't both be happy at the same > time because you didn't like what Bush did, but you like it now that > Obama's doing it. WTF? You are not even listening to me. *sniff* You've got this image in your head, and that's all you see. An "Obama lover". Right-o, Sambo! >> Nobody can stop people from advocating torture, and "first strike" >> type stuff and whatnot. This is America! =) > > It's a good thing Obama changed all Bush's war tactics....oh wait he > embraced them. And now I must love them too! I forgot, that I worship Obama, and it's nothing to do with ideals and whatnot. I hope you are not seeing yourself in me, crazy as that sounds. >> Actually, I say that I *don't* know all the answers. You are the one >> saying the solution was an easy one. You're the one "doing the math", >> so to speak. > > Trial and error, every time we lower taxes the economy roars, when we > raise them it falters. Keynesian economics is a proven failure. Some people are only concerned about the short term, like Apple. Real Men think about "the long tail". ;) But I don't know crap about economics. Fer reals! >> I don't think Economics is easy. It's too much like weather patterns, >> which we still cannot predict very far out. > > True but come on, some things are obvious. The last two years things > got worse not better. Tine to manup and try something else. I think you are looking at the little picture, and maybe not even that. ... >> What's the math behind that? > > People still got to eat. People made money during the depression too. The Rent is Too Damn High! =) We the People own a car manufacturing company now. We can somehow use the money from that to, um, feed people? Sorry, I'm not quite sure how that math is supposed to work, but I digress. >> It has nothing to do with what anyone has said, it stems from my >> belief, unlike yours, that economics isn't a hard science, per se. >> Seems more like chaos/game theory. > > Then why are you so sure what's being done is right? After two years > of downturn don't you thing there might be a problem with this map? It seems to me like things first got worse slower, and then started to (slowly) get better. I was expecting it to be *way* worse. We'd dug a pretty deep hole. By the way, what's your definition of "recovery"? >>> Priorities baby. You worry about terrorist being comfortable, I'll >>> worry about survival of our nation. >> >> WTF? Is this a stab at my strong belief in Privacy for the People? >> Oh yeah, if you are not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to >> fear, right? I remember now. > > Yeah Obama doesn't believe in rendition. He denounced torture while > leaving the door wide open to torture. It's a shell came and you're > the vic. Again with Obama? Why are you so infatuated with the man? Do you have a secret bromance or mancrush going on or what? =) Indifference is worse than hate. ;) I'm no victim. In this very communique, you can read my opinion on Obama's decisions regarding this stuff. But I'm mostly talking about parties. In general, the Republicans seem to have less of a problem doing crap like this. >> You support the anti-encryption, "government needs a back door to keep >> us safe" mentality, right? Whatever it takes to keep us "safe"? > > Hasn't that gotten much worse under Obama's admin? > You should yell at him not me, I'm not supporting it. We are yelling at him. And Congress, etc.. This is the shit we should be teaming up on, against our government. It's crap. It's obviously crap. Governmental power grabbing. But again, I feel like Republicans would trade their freedoms for security. Ironic, a government keeping them safe. And, yes, you were one who said "what's the big deal? They already had that power, etc..", weren't you? > We call her Big Sis. She scares the crap out of me but I never once > heard you mention her. Odd that. That's witty! Yeah, I don't really run in any circles, I'm not hip to the nomenclature. =) >> Torturing fools keeps us (and our armed forces) safe! This is WAR, >> essaid! The War on Terror! It's like a crusade against evil. Don't >> fear fear-- revel it! > > What did we torture like three people? They deserved it.I lose no > sleep over them. I'm curious about this rendition that Clinton started > and Obama expanded on, but you hate Bush for it. Ignoring the rendition for a second-- It doesn't fucking matter if they "deserve" it or not. America -- MY America -- doesn't do shit like that. We don't condone vigilante justice. We have ass-kickingly good ideals, that we strive hard to live up to. I don't hate Bush, he just fucked up. A lot. And it wasn't really him, either. It was the whole god-damned process. And, especially, us. We fucked up. As a people, as America. I don't want to forget it, and I don't want it to just be a stick we beat Republicans with, either. Again, it's *us* who fucked up bad, not Bush. Forgive me for using him the way you use Obama. It's not super constructive. But it can be kinda fun, so, eh... never mind. Use Obama all you want. >> Priorities indeed. What's there to save without our great ideals? > > Now who's arguing morals? So we're already lost? Let's work fo Fuck no! We're *never* lost. 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