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From: denstar [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 4:58 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: That was quick


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>> And are you *chucking kidding* me about the "morals" angle?  Remember
>> Family Values?  Have the Republicans abandoned that?  What about
>> faith-based initiatives?  Prayer in schools?
>
> Isn't Obama extending the faith based initiatives? You should be outraged.
> What prayer in school? Are you talking about prayer rooms with arrows
> pointing to Mecca?

We're talking party platforms now, try to keep up.  =)

Are Democrats in favor of faith based initiatives?  As in favor as the
Republicans, you think?

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Maybe you should type slower for him Den hehehe
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We are yelling at him.  And Congress, etc..

This is the shit we should be teaming up on, against our government.
It's crap.  It's obviously crap.  Governmental power grabbing.

But again, I feel like Republicans would trade their freedoms for
security.  Ironic, a government keeping them safe.

And, yes, you were one who said "what's the big deal?  They already
had that power, etc..", weren't you?
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Well he's not paying attention to the folk on the left that are nipping at
his heels too.  Unlike the Republicans, we have no problems roasting our own
when they are not doing the job they were hired for.
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>> Torturing fools keeps us (and our armed forces) safe!  This is WAR,
>> essaid!  The War on Terror!  It's like a crusade against evil.  Don't
>> fear fear-- revel it!
>
> What did we torture like three people? They deserved it.I lose no
> sleep over them. I'm curious about this rendition that Clinton started
> and Obama expanded on, but you hate Bush for it.

Ignoring the rendition for a second--  It doesn't fucking matter if
they "deserve" it or not.

America -- MY America -- doesn't do shit like that.

We don't condone vigilante justice.

We have ass-kickingly good ideals, that we strive hard to live up to.
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Exactly.  That is exactly why Bush, Cheney, Rummy, etc all need to be
prosecuted for war crimes.  We need to be the example, not the exception.
Any truly patriotic American should have major issues with torture for any
reason.
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I don't hate Bush, he just fucked up.  A lot.  And it wasn't really
him, either.  It was the whole god-damned process.

And, especially, us.  We fucked up.  As a people, as America.  I don't
want to forget it, and I don't want it to just be a stick we beat
Republicans with, either.

Again, it's *us* who fucked up bad, not Bush.  Forgive me for using
him the way you use Obama.  It's not super constructive.
But it can be kinda fun, so, eh... never mind.  Use Obama all you want.
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We fucked up as a country by allowing someone like Bush to get into office
and by allowing him to continue to stay in office even after all the shit
that was done was revealed.  We cannot allow this again or our democracy is
finished.
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