On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Robert Munn <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Maureen <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > That was always a purpose of the Iraq War.
>>
>> Stated where?  The rhetoric before the invasion was to find and
>> prevent the use of weapons of mass destruction, and eliminate a safe
>> haven for Al-Qaeda.  The agenda was to bring down Saddam Husein.
>>

> What did you think they intended to do after they removed Saddam? Giving the
> Iraqis the ability to choose their own future was always a primary
> consideration.

I repeat..stated where?
>
> Odierno,  Al-Qaeda in Iraq  is building strength and is now being run
>> by disaffected Iraqis instead of foreigners, so it is even more
>> entrenched than when US forces invaded.
>>
>
> It's up to the Iraqi government to do a good enough job to bring people back
> to their side. They have been struggling to figure out how to govern
> together, that's part of the learning process of becoming a democratic
> state. Would you prefer they had an angry strongman dictator to keep a lid
> on things?

What happened to "we broke it, we fix it?"  Wasn't that the reason for
staying after Saddam was deposed?
>

>> Establishing a democratic state seems to be an afterthought and not
>> one that has been very well executed, something to use as a reason
>> when the stated reasons failed.
>>
>> So, really?  We won in Iraq?  Damn strange definition of victory.
>>
>>
> On this front, our goals were to help the Iraqis establish a democratic
> state and give them the opportunity to govern themselves. We did that, now
> it's up to them to make it work. You think the Shiites and Kurds would
> rather have Saddam back?

Red Herring.  I never implied that wanted Saddam back.  I just don't
see a successful government in Iraqi, especially not a successful
demo

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