On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 7:23 AM, Sam wrote:
>
> On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 1:06 AM, denstar wrote:
>
>>> Most watched news? Where did you get that.
>>> Most watched Cable news which is the smallest segment of news.
>>
>> I got that from them.  =)
>
> But they say Most Watched Cable news
> You left out a key word

They also use "network" without adding "cable" quite often.

Don't they have a website too?

>> Cable news is Mass Media, last I checked.
>
> I was thinking of the word mass than I looked at the one percent
> number and decided 1% was a poor representative of mass. You can call
> it mass all you want, but don't say it's ironic that they ridicule the
> other 99%

You pulled 1% out of yer anus.  I like how you change the "facts" to
fit your arguments though.  Classy.  =)

If you don't think it's mass media, maybe you should edit that wiki entry.

Probably because you'll use it being mass media as the basis for some
other argument?  Useful!  Like one of those jackets you can wear
inside out.

...
> Willl stated it was ironic Fox, Beck, etc.

So you did know!  That's why.  Again though, nice definition
switch-up.  Helped with your magic math, no?

> Now, we're discussing whether Fox news is Mainstream and I'm taking
> the numbers from the highest rated show on Fox news channel, showing
> you how low they are compared to ABC, NBC and CNS numbers, not to
> mention radio news, papers and magazines.

You remind me of how Apple/Steve Jobs does addition.  Like a politician.

http://blogs.computerworld.com/17196/dear_steve_jobs_youre_wrong_again

> So from now on, just to not confuse you, I will refer to O'reilly's
> show as some guy that has the highest rating, SG for short. Maybe than
> you can focus on our little discussion and not get sidetracked :)

Why?  Is O'Reilly Beck, Fox, & c.?

Talk about sidetracked.  I can see why you're doing it though.  =)

> If we take the ratings from Fox of just news it would be less than 1%

Dude, percents are AWESOME!

Sadly, Fox is still part of the MSM.

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>> Once again I'm left wondering, what, is your point?
>
> I pointed out KO's ratings are lower than 13 other shows on cable news
> channels and he was not second in ratings only behind SG.
>
> Will claimed having ratings better than KO made them part of the Mass
> media, I was just pointing out they are only a tiny little voice in
> the giant sea of media.

Little is relative.  And besides, it's not the size of the boat, it's
the motion of the ocean.  =)

Did Will claim that KO was *not* part of the MSM?  Can we try to stay
focused here?  I'm high on drugs and easily distracted.

>> Besides the obvious, obviously.  You don't like 'em.  I get that.
>> Thanks for sharing!
>
> Well when people prop the ass up like some kind of successful hero I
> need to splash a little reality on them.

No, you just need to bring your enemies low, principles be damned.
"Damn KO, and damn the torpedoes!"

>>> So by that definition William Hung is the MSM.
>>
>> Maybe.  Who is he?
>
> Sorry, he was so 2005. I'm not really up on my current 15 minute folks.

It's probably my lack of short-term memory, as now I think he might be
the American Idol singer?

...
>> Maybe you should slow down a bit.  Let it sink in, ya know?
>
> After the first paragraph my eyes revolted.

Lots of good things are surrounded by stuff that ain't.  Take the
Bible, for instance.

...
>> Eh.  I think he's pretty witty, but this isn't about that.  Had you
>> been all like, "O'Reilly has toned it down too!", I'd be like,
>> "Woohoo!" for him too.
>
> I'm not discussing him, I don't even watch him or Beck. I was using
> SG's ratings as a comparison to the real MSM.

No, you're making up this one thing, to battle this other thing, which
you also made up.

A result of some form of cognitive dissonance?

>> Their staple is "OH MY GOD THE WORLD IS GOING TO END!" though, so...
>> not holding my breath.
>
> Ah, that's why you're so bitter. That's not it at all. They have
> different opinions than you, they see the very long recession as a
> series of mistakes and inform people of their opinions as to what
> those mistakes are. Same thing as the witty guy you like, only they're
> probably correct since they don't worship liberalism.

I *love* different opinions.  =)

The problem with Mass Media, especially Fox News, is it seems to be
more about pushing Mass Hysteria, than information.

There are some general exceptions, like PBS.  Although PBS is
interesting, because it's not all the same content.  My local PBS
station could have quite different shows than your local PBS station,
for instance.  They all have a great selection to choose from though.
Quality programming.  =)

...
>> 30 million?  Are you sure about that?
>
> It's an estimate, 30 - 40 million
>
>> Want me to wait while you go hit up the Nielsen site?  Maybe 
>> tvbythenumbers.com?
>
> That's like a bunch of ads, do you have a link to real numbers like I gave 
> you?

http://en-us.nielsen.com/content/nielsen/en_us/insights/rankings/television.html

Guess even as entertaining as "the news" has gotten, it's not very.

:Den

-- 
And what, Socrates, is the food of the soul? Surely, I said, knowledge
is the food of the sou

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