On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Sam wrote:
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 5:22 PM, denstar <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>>> Or maybe since they get like, what? Surely *billions* of dollars in
>>>> funding-- LOL! I can't type it with a straight face!
>>> Are you propping up my argument for me so you'll have something to beat
>>> down?
>> No? I don't think so. Maybe subconsciously? You never know...
>> consciousness is some funky stuff.
>
> I'm not arguing how much money they receive, I'm more concerned with
> accountability then removing funding. Now with both morons at the top
> gone maybe they will do a better job representing everyone.
Ah. Well that's fine. I think there are laws for such things, but
law is such a messed up area...
Don't get me wrong, we've got a pretty awesome system, but it could
still use a bit of work. =)
>> I was trying to make a point, using sarcasm. Way for congress (and
>> lots of other folks) to stay focused.
>
> I was pointing out it was a different point from a different time so
> you should stay focused.
Oh. I thought we were talking about how alarming this NPR stuff is.
Seems like if it should "really alarm" me, calling it an emergency
isn't so funny.
>> This is *sooooooooo* important! <--- sarcasm
>>
>> (if you believe that it is the liberals, and things like NPR, which
>> make up the shadowy conglomerate screwing us over, maybe it seems more
>> important?)
>
> I don't remember making those accusations. But I know when you read my
> mind that's what you got.
LOL! It was only so long ago that the thread hasn't split, so it's
just a matter of scrolling up, if you're in a threaded view.
This proves the biased nature of NPR? You linked it to the state of
the news in the nation and Nazis...
Biased towards money, I guess you meant?
>>> I did point out that emailing what they believed to be a terrorist
>>> organization that you'll hide the money is a shady outfit. I'm sure if
>>> I tried that it would jam up my clearance.
>> Spin is an awesome thing.
>
> Hard to pass that off as spin. There's an email.
My point was that there's probably lots of emails like this out there.
It's shady business, no doubt, but an EMERGENCY? And just for NPR?
Do you also believe that public broadcasting is vital to national
security? You sorta poo-pooed the idea when Gruss mentioned it, I
think.
>> I'm sure they are the first organization that accepts donations from
>> folks, to be asked if folks can donate anonymously, and the tax
>> ramifications.
>
> Ah, so let's water it down until it passed off as the norm.
That's not what I was aiming for, but is the opposite of that better?
Is it *really* something to be *really* alarmed about? Call an
emergency session to pass a bill that's not aimed towards actions like
this in general, but NPR specifically?
>> You actually see this as "really alarming" and an "emergency" for the
>> country?
>
> Nope. Your mind reading skills need more work.
Did I imagine you telling Gruss it should really alarm him? I'm
pretty sure you used alarm a couple of times, and said how they love
them some terr'ists (forgetting for a moment the deal about being
scared to fly with folk on airplanes-- I know! /that's/ why they
fired that dude! Cuz they loves teh terrorz!).
>> I liked your link from this stuff to a bias in the media, and
>> terrorists, though. Totes awesome! [golf clap]
>
> I made it all up, it's imaginary.
If you believe in something, that gives it substance, be it "real" or no.
Ain't here or there, just say'n.
>> "Be afraid! Be *very* afraid!"
>>
>> Personally, I'm more fearful of the effects of greed, and having so
>> much power and money in so few hands. (Though obviously, the *real*
>> power is in our hands --we the people-- but sadly we're distracted
>> easily)
>
> Did you lose your place again? Or, are you saying I should look away
> while you find things wrong with people I support?
It doesn't have to be either/or, you know. I'm more pointing out
perspective, or perhaps, a sense of proportion.
Is this going to fix the budget? Go a long ways towards fixing the
budget? Is it /really/ alarming? Is this what we should be focused
on, right now?
You say "yes, for real", I say "not so much". More power to you,
wanting to see justice served, but I don't think it justifies an
"emergency".
>> Frankly, I think there are far more alarming things to be alarmed about.
>
> So you are.
I guess so, if you want to look at it that way. It's a more polarized
way of looking at it, I think, but it's basically valid, so what the
hell!
>> Hey, let us team up on saying how fucked up the new IP stuff coming
>> down the pipe is! Unless you think the .gov being able to legally spy
>> on it's citizens is a matter of national security & a good thing...
>> [insert fond memories of the wiretapping discussion]
>
> No knew material yet?
I'm focused. LOL
>> Since it's "Obama" (and the FBI, I guess?) who's doing it, I'd think
>> we'd be able to team up in decrying it. ;)
>
> I'm starting to find it hard to believe Obama's responsible for anything.
Responsibility is a weird deal. Whole philosophies are devoted to
sussing out its nature.
Surely he plays a part, as do we all. No man is an island. ('cept
sorta, all men /are/ islands-- women too!)
>> Naw. I'm not diametric. I was just poking fun about this EMERGENCY
>> stuff regarding NPR. I mean, come on. Seriously? SERIOUSLY? pfft.
>
> Wasn't me.
The whole "this is a big deal, be alarmed about X, and really alarmed
about Y (terrorists)" seemed sorta like it *was* you.
I haven't confused you with the GOP. =)
>> Obama hasn't surprised me. I had hope, for something even better, but
>> whatever. He hasn't disappoint me as much as Bush, who, I might add,
>> *did* surprised me, but not in the good way.
>
> Wow, that shocks me. No really. Is it that you like watching him play golf?
I'm sure all the gray hair is from the back nine. I hear it's a doozy!
Do you want me to say he's an evil bastard because he's done what I
predicted he'd do, as far as giving power back to the people? I don't
know that it's his to give... I'm super glad Bush set so many awesome
examples for future presidents though!
>> I say we team up with the EFF. Your side, my side, (or whatever we
>> represent) as one. Let's get together.
>>
>> Baby steps. Eventually we'll tackle regulations/campaign reform, etc..
>
> Let's wo
-rk together? Heh. So you watch Yo Gabba Gabba too! Sweet!
"Teamwork teamwork!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzs8TPyv3QI
I find "don't bite your friends" to be a real winner too.
:Den
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