Michael Dinowitz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> That's the problem. He's saying that the basis is the 67 line and swaps are
> from there. At no place nor time was the basis the 67 line. The Oslo accord
> never said it. UN resolution 242 never said it. Neither Bush nor Clinton
> said it. The basis was always secure borders with land being given for
> peace. What land was the question and that was the point of negotiations.
>

The 67 lines + swaps has been de facto US policy for decades period.
Documented fact and undisputed by anyone with knowledge of such
things.

What's different is that Obama came out and publicly said it.  Why is
that different?

Because use 67 as a starting point is a bargaining chip, specifically
Bibi's bargaining chip.  A chip Bibi didn't want to give away, but
that every Israeli PM has given away in talks.

The key point is, by saying it out loud, Obama gave away Bibi's chip
which, the US would argue, isn't worth shit because in 30 years it's
bought nothing, or worse than nothing.

So what Obama did was decide to shake things up by breaking the old
mold, the one that hasn't worked.

Bibi (and Likud) see that as not Obama's place to do, thus the hissy fit.

Well too damn bad.  Everybody is sick of this shit and the
Palestinians are bustin a move so the US is trying to force talks by
shaking things up.

Good.

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