I think the problem there is that you are calling them "facts" but really they are words and words have different meanings to different people. In many cases, we can say that there are broadly accepted definitions that most reasonable people would agree on. In the case of gender and sex there is a greater than normal gap between the usage by different groups of people.
I happen to have a number of friends that fit in the murky areas because I spend a lot of time in alternative sexuality communities. That makes me more aware of these distinctions than most people would be but even within, say, the Intersex community (which I'm not really a part of) there is a great deal of disagreement about what terms to use and what words mean. If you start adding layers of being part of different groups that really have a keen interest in language usage around sexuality (Feminist, Queer, BDSM, etc) and it can become very complicated very quickly. I do think it is important, however, that we try and understand how different people are trying to use language so you can get at what their underlying meaning is. Scott doesn't see a distinction between Gender and Sex. It may be because he's not seen the need for a distinction between a mental model of sexuality and a physical model of sexuality or it could be that he just has different words to express the same sort of distinction. Each of those situations, however, ought to result in a very different conversation as one revolves around the mind/body dysphoria issue and the other revolves around semantics. Cheers, Judah On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Gruss Gott <[email protected]> wrote: > > Judah McAuley <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Most people don't use language precisely and most people have no >> particular reason to make a distinction between Gender and Sex. > > Bingo. > > Sex is the biological characteristic that's purely a human made up > classification. > > A penis doesn't make you a "boy". There are plenty of people who have > organs of both sexes. > > Thus, biologically, there are some made up human classifications that > aren't always accurate. > > Gender is social. Gender is a notion of expected behaviors by a > specific set of people. > > I'm not sure why people think facts are trollin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:338368 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
