Not sure I agree with the semantics here.

I do not agree that 'gender' is a social constructor identity, at
least not ay more than 'sex; would be - especially when you consider
the fact that if you asked people their 'gender' and huge majority
would answer 'male' or 'female'.

The word 'boy' is commonly used to describe a young male. The word
'girl' is commonly used to describe a young female. Along the same
lines 'man' is commonly used to describe an adult male and 'woman' is
commonly used to describe an adult female.

I understand that not every one fits into this 'mold', but I cannot
see how by not telling their children they are a male, female, boy,
girl, etc, that these people are accomplishing anything.

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Judah McAuley <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I've been largely avoiding this topic because it is really complicated
> but a lot of the problems come up because people use language
> differently. Here is a brief rundown of how I currently understand the
> language being used within communities that focus on gender and sexual
> non-normative setups:
>
> Sex is physical. Male and female are sexual labels. People who display
> primary or secondary sexual characteristics (primary being
> penis/vagina, secondary being breasts, facial hair, etc) of more than
> one sex or a blending of the sexes are generally referred to as
> Intersexed.
>
> Gender is a social construct, an identity. Boy, girl, etc are gender
> identities. People who don't feel that they fit into a particular
> gender role may consider themselves genderfluid. Those who have a
> gender identity that doesn't match their physical sex (a body
> dysmorphia) usually consider themselves transgendered. Many of those
> folks may consider sexual reassignment surgery to bring their physical
> sex into greater alignment with their gender identity. Others may be
> fine with the difference between their physical sex and their gender
> identity and consider the two largely separate.
>
> Then you layer on top of that sexual preference, a continuum of
> attraction from homosexual to heterosexual that takes into account,
> potentially, elements of both sex and gender on the part of each
> partner.
>
> As you can see, no part of it is very simple. For some people, things
> line up just right and everything fits in naturally. For others, not
> so much.
>
> Cheers,
> Judah
>
> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Medic <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Since when does castration involve removing his penis?
>>
>> Castration: You're doing it wrong.
>>
>> And why in the hell are you putting quotes around the word boy? It's not
>> "boy"... it's boy. Male and female aren't societal interpretations... they
>> are biological facts. Identifying with a zebra doesn't give you stripes.
>>
>> *rolls eyes*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Maureen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> So if a "boy' chooses to be castrated, does that make him a girl?
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 8:09 AM, Medic <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >> So what does it mean to be a "boy"?
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > It means you have a penis. Has for millions of years. Will for millions
>>> > more. What that "means" to someone is irrelevant to fact that sentient
>>> > beings with a penis are male and those with vajayjay's are female. This
>>> > isn't a cultural perception, like one's idea of beauty or gender roles.
>
>
> 

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