I completely agree with you that the mental/social component should be
the most important one in most situations. This is really a linguistic
discussion but I think that what you may not realize is that to a lot
of sexual sub-cultures, words matter a whole lot. You may not really
care whether or not a chick has a dick or not (unless you're going to
sleep with her) but for people who have struggled their whole lives
with a disconnect between the physical bits and the mental bits,
having words to properly describe and distinguish the different
components is a huge deal.

I decided to look up Gender in the Miriam-Webster dictionary and
here's what they've got:

a : sex <the feminine gender>
b : the behavioral, cultural, or psychological traits typically
associated with one sex

A lot of people presume A, a synonym of Sex. And that's
understandable, they don't have any good reason to make a distinction.
But people who do have a reason to make a distinction are the reason
for B. In casual conversation, it's fine to not really make a
distinction. But when you are looking at a situation or talking with
people for whom there is a big distinction, that's where the care with
language usage comes in.

Maybe we should come up with better, new, words to distinguish between
the plumbing bits and the behavioral/cultural/psychological bits and
leave gender and sex as synonyms but at this point, there aren't any
other good words out there (that I know of) and people make a
distinction between the two along the rough lines that I've outlined.

Cheers,
Judah

On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> See, to me, 'sex' and 'gender' are not so much about the plumbing, but
> the mental/social component. I won't try to pretend how/why a
> biological male would feel more like a female, but I understand it
> happens, and its hard to know whether these people are 'male' 'female'
> 'man' or 'woman', and I do not claim to have all the answers.
> However,I think giving 'sex' and 'gender' different meanings (when
> most reasonable people would consider them synonymous) does not
> clarify anything..it makes it more confusing.
>
> Now, I think there are times where the plumbing should be taken in to
> account. Athletics for example. If a person is biologically a man (has
> a penis, Y chromosome, etc) but identifies himself as female (for
> whatever reason). I have no reason identifying him (her) as a woman,
> but I think it might be unfair for her (him) to compete in sports
> against other women. A gray area, I know. But it has come up a few
> times recently.

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