Agreed.. hell I was the long haired metal-head in high school, but it
was my choice (still like the music, male pattern baldness took care
of the hair).

In my opinion it sounds less like a social experiment and more like
lazy parenting.. isn't it a large part of our job to give our kids the
tools to be confident and successful in life.

A child who is unsure of his gender in a world that still suffers from
large scale gender bias is being set up to fail. (IMO)

On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I see it more as bucking culture. Let's put our children through hell
> and see who they blame for it, us or society.
>
> There's no problem not conforming and trying to stand out amongst your
> peers, as long as it's your decision and not your parents.
>
> I heard the kid doesn't understand why he's being called a girl but
> the parents won't help him unless he asks for specifics ie cut hair,
> guidance on what cloths a boy should wear etc.. (note: I didn't read
> that, someone told me that so it could be from a different story)
> If that's the case they're just being selfish fools.
>
> .
>
> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Scott Stewart
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Just my $.02,
>>
>> Before we even talk about any of this, the base problem that needs to
>> be dealt with is tolerance. Kids aren't going to look at these
>> children and say "Look it's Pat and Chris, they're models of gender
>> equality we want to be just like them"  they're going to say "Look
>> it's Pat and Chris they're really weird lets beat the hell out of them
>> and take their lunch money".
>>
>> Until we teach our kids to be tolerant of other's differences
>> everything that's being discussed is moot.
>>
>> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Medic <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> You are getting something completely different out of the article than I am.
>>>
>>> Do I think it's anyone's right to know if the child has a dick or not? No.
>>> It's not about that. And from the sounds of the article their plan is to
>>> raise the child without discussing gender.
>>>
>>> Totally different than what you are saying it is.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Judah McAuley <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is a 4 month old child we are talking about. At this point, their
>>>> gender is totally irrelevant and they aren't making the child do
>>>> anything. They are telling other people that it isn't any of their
>>>> business. Do you think that anyone else has a right to know whether
>>>> the baby has a dick or not?
>>>>
>>>> Judah
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 7:06 PM, Medic <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Exactly my point. You see when you are a douchebag, well that's your
>>>> choice.
>>>> > When you are forcing your child to be a douchebag, well that's just not
>>>> > right. Let your children, when they've grown into adults and are no
>>>> longer
>>>> > under your wing, decide to be douchebags on their own. Douchebag manifest
>>>> > destiny is bullshit.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 9:54 PM, Gruss Gott <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Medic <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > No. That's just being a douche. Raising your child without teaching
>>>> them
>>>> >> > about male and female is a science experiment.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Well first, they're not saying they're not going to teach their child
>>>> >> readin', writin', and 'rithmatic - including biology which includes
>>>> >> topics on male and female.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Second, your position appears to be that if you don't raise your kids
>>>> >> to existing societal norms then it's a "science experiment".
>>>> >>
>>>> >> My neighbors when I was growing up raised their kids without
>>>> >> electricity or modern appliances / tools or any kind except basic hand
>>>> >> tools and, oddly, bicycles (only road bikes).  One summer their family
>>>> >> road bikes from MN to california.  They only had candles at night.
>>>> >> And, no surprise, they all played soccer even though at the time it
>>>> >> was totally ghey.  Football or hockey bizatches.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Anyway, they're all professors now and one is the top heliophysics
>>>> >> experts in the World at Cal Tech.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> he do real science experimen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>
> 

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