it would be refreshing, were their goals grounded in something closer to
reality

On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Jerry Barnes <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> "But as far as I can tell the debt ceiling stance  is ideology wrapped in
> stupidity and very dangerous stupidity at that. You dont even seem to be
> arguing that."
>
> Wrong, wrong, wrong.  I am saying that the ideology on both sides is
> stupid.
>
>
>
> "Your point seems to be solely that 'your guys do it too' --- that might be
> a good point at a time when they are..."
>
> You've missed the point completely.  My point is that they all do it.
> Pointing fingers at one party is stupid since both are corrupt.
>
> J
>
> -
> Transcript (Anderson Cooper 360, 7/28/11):
>
> COOPER: "What happened? It looked like things were moving in the right
> direction for Speaker Boehner earlier today. They had the test vote. It
> went
> big. What happened?"
>
> BORGER: He ran up against freshmen who don't owe him anything, Anderson.
> They were elected outside of the establishment, and honestly a lot of them
> don't care if they get reelected.
>
> COOPER: (coughing)
>
> BORGER: They believe they were sent to Congress to make government smaller
> and, duhh, to cut the deficit, and this is what they intend to do -- and
> they believe that the Boehner bill is not strong enough because they
> understand that, at some point, there's going to have to be a compromise.
> So
> they want the House to have the strongest possible bargaining position that
> it can have.
>
> COOPER: Gloria, it seems when you talk to some they don't care necessarily
> about being reelected.
>
> BORGER: (incredulous) No! They don't! These are --
>
> COOPER: Which is actually kind of refreshing, I gotta say.
>
> BORGER: Well, it is, but -- BUT!
>
> COOPER: (chuckling) It is a big "but."
>
> CHUCK TODD: Boehner ... Cantor ... and McCarthy were ... linked ... in
> this.
> This isn't necessarily about John Boehner not being able to corral these
> folks. The question is could any Republican speaker have corralled these
> votes at this time. Here's the issue they had: They can't buy them off.
> They
> don't want earmarks, they don't care about their committee assignments --
> and many of these newcomers didn't get there raising a lot of money anyway
> so being promised fundraising all that doesn't work. It may be refreshing
> on
> one hand, but it makes it that much harder to try to arm-twist and get this
> vote count to happen.
>
>
> 

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