Uh, Sam, you started a discussion on WMD. I responded, with actual
text of the same report you claim justified an NRO article, about how
the NRO claims on WMD were bullshit. Now you are trying to defend it
with a link from the NY Sun...that doesn't have anything to do with
WMD.

Notice how the first sentence of your post has nothing to do with a
single word in all the quoted text you provide? Notice how it doesn't
have anything to do with your original argument? Hell, it doesn't have
anything to do with the damn subject line. Come on, even you can do
better than that.

Judah

> On Sep 16, 2011, at 12:28 PM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> But it states they were actively working on it and succeeded in 2002.
>>
>> http://www.nysun.com/foreign/report-details-saddams-terrorist-ties/72906/
>>
>> - In the same year, Saddam ordered his intelligence service to "form a
>> group to start hunting Americans present on Arab soil; especially
>> Somalia." At the time, Al Qaeda was working with warlords against
>> American forces there.
>>
>> ...
>> The report also undercuts the claim made by many on the left and many
>> at the CIA that Saddam, as a national socialist, was incapable of
>> supporting or collaborating with the Islamist al Qaeda. The report
>> concludes that instead Iraq's relationship with Osama bin Laden's
>> organization was similar to the relationship between the rival
>> Colombian cocaine cartels in the 1990s. Both were rivals in some sense
>> for market share, but also allies when it came to expanding the size
>> of the overall market.
>>
>> The Pentagon study finds, "Recognizing Iraq as a second, or parallel,
>> 'terror cartel' that was simultaneously threatened by and somewhat
>> aligned with its rival helps to explain the evidence emerging from the
>> detritus of Saddam's regime."
>>
>> .
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Judah McAuley <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> There are lots of little details you could get into but the report
>>> group chose to highlight this as a top level, summary, take away
>>> conclusion:
>>>
>>> "Depending on its scale, Iraq could have re-established an elementary
>>> BW program within a few weeks to a few months of a decision to do so,
>>> but ISG discovered no indications that the Regime was pursuing such a
>>> course."
>>>
>>> Yes, the country could have started very rudimentary production of
>>> biological agents like anthrax. Almost every country in the world
>>> could do that. However, once again, *there is no evidence they were
>>> going to do that*.
>>>
>>> There was no "program". There were no advanced development projects.
>>> There was no infrastructure for developing anything beyond rudimentary
>>> capabilities even if they wanted to. There was no evidence that there
>>> were any plans to even create a rudimentary program.
>>>
>>> It isn't a matter of Sam and I reading the same thing and coming away
>>> with different conclusions. The conclusions are explicitly laid out in
>>> the report. Ignoring them is simply willful ignorance.
>>>
>>> Judah
>

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