Yeah because I'll hold at all *tested* theories are fact. Like all facts, new information may come to light that supersedes the old fact, but it doesn't ever prove it wrong. It can't. That's the whole point of testing.
So, yes, all tested scientific theories are fact. On Sep 20, 2011, at 12:44 PM, GMoney <[email protected]> wrote: > > Yeah, you are correct. > > I will now quibble even with people who don't want to call it a "fact"...and > i'll point out that it is an actual, measurable fact. > > Cool, more reason to argue with people :) > > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Judah McAuley <[email protected]>wrote: > >> >> Technically, evolution is a fact. You can design and execute a test >> that explicitly shows variation of traits from one generation to the >> next in response to a selective force. You can map the frequency of >> alleles and show the predicted adaptive traits as a changed frequency >> in the studied population. This has all been done repeatedly. >> >> Now, the whole "debate" part is not about evolution, it is (usually) >> about speciation. Can a new species arise from an existing set of >> species and is the process of descent with modification due to natural >> selection sufficient to explain the entirety of the biodiversity on >> the planet today (specifically, to most people, did Humans arise as a >> species as a result of this process). >> >> The evidence for all of it is really quite overwhelming and it is >> pretty ridiculous to doubt any of it at a macro level but if someone >> says "evolution is not a fact" you can tell them that, no, it is >> indeed an actual, measurable fact. >> >> Cheers, >> Judah >> >> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 10:05 AM, GMoney <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Actually, I'm saying many theories can be assumed to be facts, like >>>> evolution, while many are not. Then there's plenty in the middle that >>>> need more testing. >>>> >>> >>> Sure, we treat them as facts, because for all intents and purposes..they >>> are. >>> >>> But once you say "evolution is a fact", then you go from the scientific >> to >>> the layperson...something we chastise people for doing when they say that >>> evolution is "just a theory". >>> >>> So while I certainly consider evolution to be the actual representation >> of >>> what is going on, to the best of our observable limits, I won't quibble >> with >>> someone who wants to stay away from calling it a "fact"....as long as >> they >>> understand what it really is, and don't discount it simply because it >> can't >>> be classified as a scientific "law" yet. >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:342835 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
