Yeah...other than on some of the social issues, there is little difference
between Bush and Obama....except Bush actually had a backbone and stood his
ground, for better or worse.  Obama is just as much a corporatist as Bush
was.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dana [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 1:59 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: fema camps and habeus corpus/posse comitatus


whoops that's an old Bush proposal. (they're starting to blend, aren't
they). This is the current one:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/dec/09/us-military-d
etain-citizens-without-trial
and it looks like it's still pending. I thought I heard on the news that it
had passed, but perhaps that was just the House.

D

On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Dana <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm finding your smug certitudes more than usually annoying. Just to 
> be clear, here's what *I* think we're talking about. I don't think you 
> have to be paranoid to find it scary. Not sure what *you* think we're 
> talking about.
>
> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6167856
>
> On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 8:06 AM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected]>
wrote:
>>
>> Rember not to forget your tinfoil hats when the black helicopters 
>> come to get you.
>>
>> On Saturday, December 10, 2011, Dana <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> they PASSED that law? OMG. Maybe Obama will veto it. I don't think 
>>> he's said anything on the subject personally, but his administration 
>>> said it did more harm than good. On the other hand, it's an election 
>>> year. Sigh.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 12:20 AM, Robert Munn <[email protected]>
wrote:
>>>>
>>>> FEMA camps have been activated and the Senate has made it possible 
>>>> for
>> the
>>>> military to detain Americans indefinitely without trial. So who is 
>>>> going
>> to
>>>> end up in those camps and why, and who decides how those people 
>>>> will be treated, when they can have access to lawyers and family 
>>>> members, and
>> what
>>>> their rights are given that the Senate has just stripped the people 
>>>> of
>> the
>>>> right of habeus corpus. It may be convenient to look the other way 
>>>> if the people in the camps are 'bad', but we should tread very 
>>>> carefully on the hallowed ground of the Bill of Rights. Today's 
>>>> terrorists just might be tomorrow's leaders (South Africa, Ireland, 
>>>> show this progression of
>> events
>>>> in the last 30 years.) The rights that we respect in the worst of 
>>>> times demonstrate our commitment to the rule of law and show our 
>>>> true national character.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> 



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