One of the five students shot this morning has died BTW...that was just reported on CNN.
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected]>wrote: > > Gun availability and state suicide rates, 1988-1997 (cross sectional > analysis) > Using a validated proxy for firearm ownership rates, we analyzed the > relationship between firearm availability and suicide across 50 states > over a ten year period. > Major findings: After controlling for poverty and urbanization, for > every age group, across the United States, people in states with many > guns have elevated rates of suicide, particularly firearm suicide. > Publication: Miller, Matthew; Azrael, Deborah; Hemenway, David. > "Household Firearm Ownership Levels and Suicide across U.S. Regions > and States, 1988-1997." Epidemiology. 2002; 13:517-524. > > Overall the page > ( > http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/research/hicrc/firearms-research/guns-and-death/index.html > ) > looks at all the things already discussed. What is very impressive is > that the relation between firearm ownership and > suicide/homicide/unintentional death held even for controlling most > other factors. > > > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected]> > wrote: > > http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp0805923 > > > > > http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/research/hicrc/firearms-research/guns-and-death/index.html > > > > This last reference is very extensive it compares the various rates of > > suicide, accidental deaths, homicide etc as a function of firearms in > > the house across all sorts of conditions over a 10 to 30 year period - > > depending on the analysis. Its very consistent, in all these > > situations, the presence of firearms significantly increases the > > changes of death in the household. > > > > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I'll have to dig up the source for this again, but I remember reading > >> recently that if there is a handgun in the house, suicide, accidental > >> deaths, and homicides increase by 2 or 3 times over those household > >> who do not have handguns. > >> > >> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 11:35 AM, GMoney <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Vivec <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>>> > >>>> Well let's look at that. Is the homicide rate by firearm exponentially > >>>> higher in Arizona as compared to the rest of the US? > >>>> > >>> > >>> Why do people always focus on homicide rate when it comes to guns? > >>> > >>> Hand guns do far more damage every single day in this country than can > be > >>> reflected in attributable deaths. I'd like to see this stat: Number of > >>> times in a given day that an innocent American's day, week, month, > year or > >>> possible life, is negatively affected by a hand gun. > >>> > >>> Doesn't have to be a homicide...could be as simple as a night time > clerk > >>> who had a gun shoved in his face and now is afraid to even leave his > house. > >>> Or the battered wife who's reminded of the glock King Asshole keeps in > his > >>> closet should she ever think about leaving him. The gun flashed in the > >>> waistband of the punk on the street because someone else looked at him > >>> wrong. > >>> > >>> You are getting lost in statistics when all it takes is a little common > >>> sense: Why do we need easily concealable and portable weapons? Only two > >>> reasons: 1) to do bad things to people or 2) to protect ourselves from > the > >>> people in 1. Your argument is the same tired one: we can never > eliminate 1, > >>> so we should always have 2. In reality, 2 ensures 1 will always thrive, > >>> which feeds 2, which feeds 1, which.....on and on and on it goes. > >>> > >>> We should be better than this. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Through the too many miles > >>> And the too little smiles > >>> I still remember you > >>> > >>> > >>> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:347442 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
