On a slightly related note. When was the last time anyone heard of a home schooled child bringing a gun to school and shooting fellow students?
Simple solution: ban schools. Without schools, there will be no school shootings. On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Eric Roberts <[email protected]> wrote: > > One of the five students shot this morning has died BTW...that was just > reported on CNN. > > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected]>wrote: > >> >> Gun availability and state suicide rates, 1988-1997 (cross sectional >> analysis) >> Using a validated proxy for firearm ownership rates, we analyzed the >> relationship between firearm availability and suicide across 50 states >> over a ten year period. >> Major findings: After controlling for poverty and urbanization, for >> every age group, across the United States, people in states with many >> guns have elevated rates of suicide, particularly firearm suicide. >> Publication: Miller, Matthew; Azrael, Deborah; Hemenway, David. >> "Household Firearm Ownership Levels and Suicide across U.S. Regions >> and States, 1988-1997." Epidemiology. 2002; 13:517-524. >> >> Overall the page >> ( >> http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/research/hicrc/firearms-research/guns-and-death/index.html >> ) >> looks at all the things already discussed. What is very impressive is >> that the relation between firearm ownership and >> suicide/homicide/unintentional death held even for controlling most >> other factors. >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp0805923 >> > >> > >> http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/research/hicrc/firearms-research/guns-and-death/index.html >> > >> > This last reference is very extensive it compares the various rates of >> > suicide, accidental deaths, homicide etc as a function of firearms in >> > the house across all sorts of conditions over a 10 to 30 year period - >> > depending on the analysis. Its very consistent, in all these >> > situations, the presence of firearms significantly increases the >> > changes of death in the household. >> > >> > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> I'll have to dig up the source for this again, but I remember reading >> >> recently that if there is a handgun in the house, suicide, accidental >> >> deaths, and homicides increase by 2 or 3 times over those household >> >> who do not have handguns. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 11:35 AM, GMoney <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Vivec <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Well let's look at that. Is the homicide rate by firearm exponentially >> >>>> higher in Arizona as compared to the rest of the US? >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> Why do people always focus on homicide rate when it comes to guns? >> >>> >> >>> Hand guns do far more damage every single day in this country than can >> be >> >>> reflected in attributable deaths. I'd like to see this stat: Number of >> >>> times in a given day that an innocent American's day, week, month, >> year or >> >>> possible life, is negatively affected by a hand gun. >> >>> >> >>> Doesn't have to be a homicide...could be as simple as a night time >> clerk >> >>> who had a gun shoved in his face and now is afraid to even leave his >> house. >> >>> Or the battered wife who's reminded of the glock King Asshole keeps in >> his >> >>> closet should she ever think about leaving him. The gun flashed in the >> >>> waistband of the punk on the street because someone else looked at him >> >>> wrong. >> >>> >> >>> You are getting lost in statistics when all it takes is a little common >> >>> sense: Why do we need easily concealable and portable weapons? Only two >> >>> reasons: 1) to do bad things to people or 2) to protect ourselves from >> the >> >>> people in 1. Your argument is the same tired one: we can never >> eliminate 1, >> >>> so we should always have 2. In reality, 2 ensures 1 will always thrive, >> >>> which feeds 2, which feeds 1, which.....on and on and on it goes. >> >>> >> >>> We should be better than this. >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Through the too many miles >> >>> And the too little smiles >> >>> I still remember you >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:347455 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
