California is hardly is Republican bastion and has one of the highest rates
of incarceration.

Your bias is showing.

Let's debate on the merits of an idea and leave party politics out of it.
At this point both parties ate controlled by monied special interests and
not their constituents.

On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 8:52 AM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected]>wrote:

>
> In one sense this is the result of years of such laws as 3 strikes an
> you're out, increasing minimal penalties, and in a lot of republican
> controlled states the elimination of parole and early release and the
> elimination of various social programs intended to help ex cons
> reintegrate and prevent them from getting back into crime. All of
> which results in a huge prison population. So what do you expect when
> get tough the be all and end all mantra of the reich wing.
>
> On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 9:07 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > They had to release 30,000 inmates due to overcrowding and horrible care.
> >
> >
> http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/23/us-california-prisons-court-idUSTRE74M3DQ20110523
> >
> > How people can claim we aren't living in a police state is beyond me.  Do
> > you know we jail more people than anyone else in the world?
> >
> >
> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/23/world/americas/23iht-23prison.12253738.html?pagewanted=all
> >
> > We have roughly 5% of the worlds population and 25% of the worlds prison
> > population.  Many of these arrests can be laid directly at the feet of
> the
> > failed drug war, with other victimless or non-violent crimes making up
> > large portions.
> >
> > Additionally someone that may go in for a relatively minor charge has to
> > deal with such violence, and such life changing events (rape?), that they
> > often come out far worse than they went in.
> >
> > I was in the system for several years as a teenager, until I was
> > emancipated at 16.  I know that the juvenile system in NY was far easier
> > than the adult system, but I still saw some really screwed up shit when I
> > was in residential and gillies.
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 8:54 PM, Jerry Barnes <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Zimmerman should be thankful that he isn't jailed in LA.
> >>
> >>
> >> More Evidence U.S. Police Brutality Is Out Of Control:
> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0kE9MDUEh8o
> >>
> >> J
> >>
> >> -
> >>
> >> Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad
> reputation.
> >> - Henry Kissinger
> >>
> >> Politicians are people who, when they see light at the end of the
> tunnel,
> >> go out and buy some more tunnel. - John Quinton
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
> 

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