they did fight a war a few decades later and the americans got their
butts collectively handed to them.

The revolutionary war could have been resolved possibly. But the issue
was taxes. the american colonists really objected to paying for a war
that they had agitated for. They were also pissed off that the
Quebecois were granted religious freedom or at least freedom to
practice Catholicism - read some of the American newspapers of the day
and you'd think you're back in the Reformation. Another major issue
was that the fur trade was not opened up as the American colonists
wanted, or that the American merchants were not granted special
privileges over the Quebec mercantile classes. (Sounds very familiar
in a way to the US right wing these days - only political comment I'll
make).

But really the Revolutionary War was a close run thing. If the French
were defeated at the Battle of the Capes or did not land almost 10,000
soldiers under Rochambeau then its very possible that the American
Revolution would have failed. One possible result would have been very
different treatment of the colonies. The British after the war had
made changes to the colony structure in Canada - a more authoritarian
system under the Governor-General for instance. I remember one
speculation the prof gave in my intro to Canadian history class is
that independent legislatures in the colonies would have developed
much more rapidly than it did subsequent to the war. Another big
change would have been the treatment of the Indian tribes in the north
west. The pattern of westward expansion would have been very different
less in the Ohio Valley and more to the south.

On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 11:04 AM, GMoney <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I think the new colonies wanted their independence from Britain, and were
> going to always eventually find an excuse to fight for it.
>
> Even if Britain had won the war of the late 1700's...they would have fought
> another one a few decades later...and then another one..and another one,
> until the colonies eventually won.
>
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>>
>> Well given that the colonials paid far less in taxes than those in
>> Britain did, it probably would have made things worse. Giving the
>> colonials seats in Parliament again may not have done a lot of good -
>> there were far fewer colonials than people in Britain. The few seats
>> representing the colonials would have been like a drop in a bucket.
>>
>> Remember we're looking at it through the lens of our modern viewpoint.
>> Things were considered far different then. For instance the governing
>> attitude at the time was mercantilism (see
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercantilism). I really don't know
>> whether the conflicting views could have been reconciled. While,
>> including Burke and Franklin were willing to compromise, radicals on
>> both sides wanted blood.
>>
>> At the same time France was looking at any way it could to revenge its
>> humiliating defeats in Europe, the Caribbean, North America and India
>> during the Seven Years' War. As far as I could see the conflict would
>> have been inevitable.
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:14 AM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > I don't know.
>> >
>> > Could the King have allowed the colonists members of Parliament?  Brought
>> > the tax situation in line with the rest of Great Britain?
>> >
>> > Maybe?
>> >
>> > On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 8:45 AM, GMoney <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 12:32 AM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > There had been many complaints levied against the King and his
>> >> > representatives, but it was the attempt to seize arms that lead from
>> >> > petitions and protests to open rebellion.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Don't you think war was inevitable by that point?
>> >>
>> >> I just finished with this episode of the "Story of Us".
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
> 

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