Wow, what I'm reading and have read about this conflict in no way supports your claims.
1. It was never the stated American objective to seize Canada. That is something that Canadians like to say a lot, but it's simply not born out by the facts. 2. The American Navy was stronger at the end of the war than it was at the beginning, we went on to fight and win the 2nd Barbary war in 1815 with that Navy, finally breaking the backs of the pirates. 3. Money was likely one of the main real causes of the war. Britain had been seizing ships and crew and prohibiting us from trading witht he rest of the European continent. We were able to resume normal trade after the war. Objective met, Nyet Comrade? 4. We were in worse debt than now? Really Larry, you need to take a look at the numbers there my friend, even accounting for inflation the debt incurred in no way matches our current budget, let alone out national debt. On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected]>wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 11:31 AM, GMoney <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > >> > >> they did fight a war a few decades later and the americans got their > >> butts collectively handed to them. > >> > > > > Yeah, but we won when it counted! > > Last I checked Canada is still not a part of the US. That is what the > entire war of 1812 was about. When the treaty of Ghent was signed, the > British controlled more US territory than the US controlling Canadian > territory. The American merchant navy was in tatters, the US navy was > up on blocks. The American economy was shattered because of the lack > of trade with Britain, and the government was in worse debt than now. > There was a movement within Britain to continue the war and eliminate > the "American heresy". > > [snip] > > > > Oh there were a lot of what-ifs that could have caused the revolution to > > fail. It's still a miracle that we won that war. YOu talk about very > > different treatment of the colonies...do you see any such treatment that > > could have resulted in the colonies not attempting another revolution? > > > > It was inevitable, wasn't it? > > Its hard to say. There could have been accommodations and the eventual > change in status from a set of colonies to a Dominion, very much like > what happened in Upper and Lower Canada. At the end of the > Revolutionary war the idea was that it was too much democracy that was > the problem. So the BNA colonies representative legislatures were cut > back severely. It wasn't until the Upper and Lower Canada rebellions > of 1837 and the destruction of the Family Compacts that a more > representative legislature in the BNA Colonies were reestablished. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:350135 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
