I am not a farmer...so I can't get any more specific. The markers are from the wiki article. This doesn't claim to be the governments definition...but it seems to be a reasonable on.
-----Original Message----- From: LRS Scout [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 9:26 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Rural kids, parents angry about Labor Dept. rule banning farm chores We're getting closer. I still don't see anything there that really tells you specifically how to differentiate between the two. Are "citations needed" markers, so no telling the accuracy of the article. I would just feel better about it if there was some way to measure the difference. On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 9:25 PM, Eric Roberts < [email protected]> wrote: > > Mot sure what DoA is using, but here is one definition. > > > Corporate farm vs family farm > Main article: family farm > Cargill beef processing plant > > Farms are expensive to operate; input costs include farm machinery, > crop insurance, fertilizers, irrigation, pesticides, fuel, and seeds. > Some people question whether small family farms are still economically > sustainable in the United States. However, there is a growing > resurgence of interest in organic, free range, and locally grown > family farm products.[citation needed] > > One major difference between independent farming and corporate farming > is that a corporate farmer is usually a contracted employee, rather > than the owner of the farm. However, ownership itself does not mean > independence. An owner-operated farm today faces many constraints that > are completely out of the owner's control. Most of these can be seen > in light of increasing concentration of ownership, not only of farms, > but of the equipment and inputs necessary to farm, and the available > sales channels.[citation needed] > > Production contracts are a primary means of control and vertical > integration of family farms. These are of two general types. > Production management contracts specify the methods farmers must use. > Resource-providing contracts require the contractor to also provide > materials (e.g) and equipment. Under the latter, increasingly > prevalent arrangement, the family farm owns its land and "sells" its > output, but retains no real decision making control over the essential > farming activities, like crop selection, equipment purchase, > production methods, sales channels, and buyers.[citation needed] > > A prime example is the drive to constantly improve production > efficiency, as measured by farm output. By using successive waves of > new technology (in agrichemicals, mechanization, crop varieties, > drugs, etc.), output has steadily risen over the past decades. This in > turn has contributed to steadily driving down the price farmers can > get for their output. As the cost of remaining in production rises, > and income falls, only the larger business entities, with the ability > to profit from outside of the immediate farming activities (such as > through financial services, agrichemical production, food > distribution, and so forth) can afford to remain in the game.[citation > needed] > > In terms of income disparity, large family farms, rather than factory > farms, have the greatest impact. Although 14% of total food production > comes from the two percent of all farms in the United States that are > owned by corporations or other non-family entities, 50% of food > production comes from the biggest two percent of all farms. In 1900, > it came from 17% of all farms.[2] > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_farming#Corporate_farm_vs_famil > y_farm > > -----Original Message----- > From: LRS Scout [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 5:36 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Rural kids, parents angry about Labor Dept. rule banning > farm chores > > > I read it, and guess or not, you haven't provided any way of measuring > the difference between a family run corporate farm and on run by big business. > > > On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 5:38 PM, Eric Roberts < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Do you intentionally not read? Hence the phrase "My guess is..." > > Simple concept Tim... > > > > > > Seriously... > > On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 2:35 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Mr. Roberts, do you intentionally look for ways not to grasp what > > > people are saying? > > > > > > She is asking what is the LEGAL difference? > > > > > > How will these rules be implemented differently between the two? > > > I own > > two > > > now defunct business, one sole, one with share holders. How will > > > the government legally differentiate between my company and tyson? > > > > > > Number of employees? Share of the market? What are the metrics? > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Eric Roberts < > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > My guess is it is the difference between your friends farm and a > > > > Tyson Chicken farm... > > > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Erika L. Rich > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But my ex-boyfriends farm, which is family owned, is a corporation. > > So > > > > > define "corporate". > > > > > Most huge farms are family run "corporations" since they are > > > businesses. > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Eric Roberts < > > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One thing about the restrictions on the farms...apparently > > > > > > this > > only > > > > > > applies to non-family farms. So corporate farms cannot > > > > > > employ kids > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > restricted environments, but mom and pop farms can put thier > > > > > > kis to > > > > work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Eric > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:350414 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
