On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 6:03 PM, Judah McAuley <[email protected]> wrote:
> Every single thing about the Walker campaign in Wisconsin, however, seems > slimy, unethical and dishonest. > I'll leave this analysis to the crazy radio host people screaming into their microphones. > What is the intellectually > honest argument that they aren't trying to effectively kill collective > bargaining? Well, I am not really interested in the "we vs they" thing, I am really just trying to understand the change in law and wether I think it's good or bad. > If you want to make the argument against the right to > unionize period, ok. That's a debate. Well, that's not what am debating, really, but I would be open to it. > This shit though? I've yet to > see anyone able to make a cogent argument for the items in the bill > and have it amount to more than "We don't like unions and are trying to > knee cap them". > Which is why I prefer to view the bill and law summary rather than observe the participants in the process directly. I am curious if the changes to law stand on their own as valid ideas - the distastefulness of everyone involved is irrelevant to me in that context. > If we want to discuss optional membership in a union as opposed to > mandatory membership, that's something I can really ponder. I've > considered arguments on both sides and I'm still unsure, can't quite > form a definitive position one way or another. The Wisconsin bill, > however, doesn't have anything to do with this point. > I very clearly favor freedom of individual choice in lots of things, including this. > I also think that there are a lot of options for avoiding unionization > on the part of employers. For instance, my sister and her husband [...] Also an option, choosing not to work somewhere that treats you like dogshit. I know that's grossly overly simplified, but frankly so was your example. None the less, Walker and his cronies were out to knee cap unions and > undermine the very basis of collective bargaining while pretending to > just want to stream line union processes. It was dishonest and dirty > to the core. And they got away with it. While you make like the idea > of doing away with unions, I think that if you really look at what > they did and how they did it, you'll be holding your nose too. Their > shit stinks plenty. I am supremely uninterested in identifying the character flaws of politicians. I figured out that are mostly all slimy lying assholes a long time ago. -Cameron ... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:351819 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
