/When people talk about how same sex marriage will change heterosexual
marriages may be a bit correct. 8 years ago my cousin married his
significant other. Wendy and I attended the wedding. It was a great
time, everyone got smashed. 9 months later Alexis was born.

So you see same sex marriages can affect straight ones.

On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:03 PM, GMoney <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> We've all agreed this is the best approach, but it's never going to happen.
> People have too much invested emotion in the idea of their "marriages".
> Will young men get down on one knee and ask their girlfriends to "legally
> bond" with them? Not gonna happen.
>
> The idea of marriage, and the word "marriage", are here to stay. So if we
> need to have two separate notions of the word.....that recognized as a
> legal contract by the state...and that recognized as a sacrament by the
> church...then so be it. As such, though, only the Church should be able to
> deny that sacrament to people based on sexual orientation.
>
> Pure and simple.
>
> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> The root of this whole issue is that the same word 'marriage' is used
>> by 2 different entities to describe 2 different things.
>>
>> Most religious institutions use the word to describe a religious rite
>> or ceremony.
>>
>> The government uses the word to describe a civil 'contract' between adults.
>>
>> My issue is that people in religious institutions are trying to push
>> their definition of 'marriage' on to the government. By telling 2
>> people they cannot enter into a contract solely based on their sexual
>> orientation is, without a doubt, discriminatory. To me, it is akin to
>> telling a gay man he cannot sign a lease for no other reason than the
>> fact that he is gay.
>>
>> Personally, I think the government should get out of the marriage
>> business. What we now know as 'marriage' in the eyes of the government
>> would simply be called something different. People who want to get
>> married would do so in a church, temple, etc. But if they want that
>> 'union' to be recognized by the government, they need to follow an
>> additional procedures or file different paperwork. Right now, in a
>> Catholic church for example, when a couple gets married, the priest
>> performs the religious ceremony AND the civil 'paperwork', under my
>> suggestion, they would be separated to avoid any confusion.
>>
>> Any adults who enter into this new 'civil contract' would be eligible
>> for the same benefits from the federal government as 'married' people
>> do now.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > Remember we were talking about marriage, not history in general?
>> >
>> > .
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 10:10 PM, Eric Roberts
>> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> That is a fact.  There were pagan faiths long before Judaism was around.
>> >> Babylonian, Sumerian, Chinese, Arabic, not to mention all of the pagan
>> >> faiths of the African tribes were aroundlong before Judaism. Judaism
>> sprung
>> >> out of Canaanite Paganism.  That is a matter of fact, not an opinion.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
> 

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