If you want to go for the religious ritual fine. But you should put in and fill out the paperwork yourself.
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:03 PM, GMoney <[email protected]> wrote: > > We've all agreed this is the best approach, but it's never going to happen. > People have too much invested emotion in the idea of their "marriages". > Will young men get down on one knee and ask their girlfriends to "legally > bond" with them? Not gonna happen. > > The idea of marriage, and the word "marriage", are here to stay. So if we > need to have two separate notions of the word.....that recognized as a > legal contract by the state...and that recognized as a sacrament by the > church...then so be it. As such, though, only the Church should be able to > deny that sacrament to people based on sexual orientation. > > Pure and simple. > > On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> The root of this whole issue is that the same word 'marriage' is used >> by 2 different entities to describe 2 different things. >> >> Most religious institutions use the word to describe a religious rite >> or ceremony. >> >> The government uses the word to describe a civil 'contract' between adults. >> >> My issue is that people in religious institutions are trying to push >> their definition of 'marriage' on to the government. By telling 2 >> people they cannot enter into a contract solely based on their sexual >> orientation is, without a doubt, discriminatory. To me, it is akin to >> telling a gay man he cannot sign a lease for no other reason than the >> fact that he is gay. >> >> Personally, I think the government should get out of the marriage >> business. What we now know as 'marriage' in the eyes of the government >> would simply be called something different. People who want to get >> married would do so in a church, temple, etc. But if they want that >> 'union' to be recognized by the government, they need to follow an >> additional procedures or file different paperwork. Right now, in a >> Catholic church for example, when a couple gets married, the priest >> performs the religious ceremony AND the civil 'paperwork', under my >> suggestion, they would be separated to avoid any confusion. >> >> Any adults who enter into this new 'civil contract' would be eligible >> for the same benefits from the federal government as 'married' people >> do now. >> >> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > Remember we were talking about marriage, not history in general? >> > >> > . >> > >> > On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 10:10 PM, Eric Roberts >> > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> That is a fact. There were pagan faiths long before Judaism was around. >> >> Babylonian, Sumerian, Chinese, Arabic, not to mention all of the pagan >> >> faiths of the African tribes were aroundlong before Judaism. Judaism >> sprung >> >> out of Canaanite Paganism. That is a matter of fact, not an opinion. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:353272 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
