What he said.

On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> While deplorable, speaking at that conference is not 'lobbying' for the
> law.
>
> If we are gonna dislike these people, lets make sure we have our facts
> straight.
>
> On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Eric Roberts
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > From 5 to 8 March 2009, a workshop took place in Kampala, the capital of
> > Uganda, that featured three American evangelical Christians: Scott
> Lively,
> > an author who has written several books opposing homosexuality; Caleb Lee
> > Brundidge, a self-professed former gay man who conducts sessions to heal
> > homosexuality; and Don Schmierer, a board member of Exodus
> International, an
> > organisation devoted to promoting "freedom from homosexuality through the
> > power of Jesus Christ".[13] The theme of the conference, according to The
> > New York Times, was the "gay agenda": "how to make gay people straight,
> how
> > gay men often sodomized teenage boys and how 'the gay movement is an evil
> > institution' whose goal is 'to defeat the marriage-based society and
> replace
> > it with a culture of sexual promiscuity' ".[11
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> > Three Ravens Consulting
> > Eric Roberts
> > Owner/Developer
> > [email protected]
> > tel: 630-486-5255
> > fax: 630-310-8531
> > http://www.threeravensconsulting.com
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: GMoney [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 2:38 PM
> > To: cf-community
> > Subject: Re: Chick-Fil-A backs down
> >
> >
> > I just like truth.
> >
> > I can very easily see how one could read snippets about this conference
> and
> > that law and Exodus' involvement and come away thinking they supported
> this
> > law. So i'm not accusing Eric of anything.
> >
> > But when i hear a pretty bold statement like that, it's good to get the
> > facts and correct them if we can. Exodus still seems to be a bunch of
> > morons, but let's keep their idiocy factual!
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 2:34 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> haha
> >>
> >> like like like
> >>
> >> On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 3:32 PM, GMoney <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Thanks Judah.
> >> >
> >> > So according to what Judah posted, it looks like they never
> >> > supported
> >> this
> >> > law. They did engage in a conference about which the stupidity of
> >> > making homosexuality illegal was apparently discussed. The law was
> >> > then
> >> considered
> >> > at some point after the conference, at which time Exodus sent a
> >> > letter expressing concern about the law (NOT support). They then
> >> > said they never had, and never would, support such a law, and they
> >> > regretted being
> >> involved
> >> > with the conference in the first place.
> >> >
> >> > So, is Eric's statement true: They lobbied for a law in Uganda that
> >> > made being gay an executable offence.
> >> >
> >> > ???
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Judah McAuley
> >> > <[email protected]>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > > Exodus International and their trip to Uganda:
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> http://www.exgaywatch.com/wp/2009/03/open-letter-to-the-exodus-interna
> >> tional-board-of-directors/
> >> > >
> >> > > A year later after a lot of bad publicity, Exodus apologizes and
> >> > > decides to come out against the bill in Uganda:
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> http://www.christianpost.com/news/exodus-leaders-issue-statement-again
> >> st-uganda-s-anti-gay-bill-44477/
> >> > >
> >> > > Cheers,
> >> > > Judah
> >> > >
> >> > > On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 12:18 PM, GMoney <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Wait a minute. This group, Exodus International, some group i've
> >> never
> >> > > > heard of, actively lobbied to pass a law that would allow Uganda
> >> > > > to
> >> > kill
> >> > > > people solely for being gay???
> >> > > >
> >> > > > And Chick Fil A gave money to this group?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I don't usually ask for sources, but this seems pretty outlandish.
> >> Can
> >> > > you
> >> > > > show me where it's documented that this group supported a Uganda
> >> > > > rule
> >> > to
> >> > > > make homosexuality punishable by death???
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Judah McAuley
> >> > > > <[email protected]
> >> >
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Yes, Eric, they are bad people. That does not mean they lose
> >> > > >> any of their rights.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Judah
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Eric Roberts
> >> > > >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > They lobbied for a law in Uganda that made being gay an
> >> > > >> > executable offence...one of the prime movers in that was
> >> > > >> > Exodus
> >> international,
> >> > > one
> >> > > >> of
> >> > > >> > the recipients of funds from CFA...
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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