They lobbied for a law in Uganda that made being gay an executable
offence...one of the prime movers in that was Exodus international, one of
the recipients of funds from CFA...

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-----Original Message-----
From: LRS Scout [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 1:43 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Chick-Fil-A backs down


They aren't preventing anyone from getting married where it is legal.
There is no force involved, so no.

On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Larry C. Lyons
<[email protected]>wrote:

>
> So in this case, isn't that just what Cathy did, funding groups 
> outside the firm that impacted on the rights of others?
>
> On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 2:30 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > I don't believe in zoning laws at all personally.
> >
> > I should be able to do whatever I want with my private property so 
> > long
> as
> > it doesn't leave my property and impact the rights of others outside 
> > of
> my
> > property.
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Larry C. Lyons 
> ><[email protected]
> >wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> In a lot of cases that is what has happened with such things as 
> >> stripper clubs, abortion clinics, certain political party offices, 
> >> and anything not necessarily mainstream or popular. If we condone 
> >> one practice do we condone it all? Its one of those "wedge" issues 
> >> so to speak.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Judah McAuley 
> >> <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Ah, I missed that. I went back and re-read the article. I really 
> >> > doubt that the whole organization would change it's philosophy 
> >> > based on one restaurant siting decision in Chicago, so I think 
> >> > this is just an Alderman trying to make himself look bigger than 
> >> > he is. However, I agree with you, it is wrong for a city official 
> >> > to be telling a company to change a legal activity if they want 
> >> > to do business in your town. Decisions on a business being 
> >> > allowed in a certain area should be based entirely on zoning 
> >> > rules already in place. You should not ever have a city official 
> >> > be able to say yes or no on the basis of "I don't like you".
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for pointing that out, Tim.
> >> >
> >> > Cheers,
> >> > Judah
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 10:57 AM, LRS Scout <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> It wasn't the protests that got him to back down though.  
> >> >> According
> to
> >> that
> >> >> article it was the government.
> >> >> On Sep 19, 2012 1:56 PM, "Judah McAuley" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Isn't that the point of boycotts and social pressure in general?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Extortion, to my mind, happens when you threaten to make 
> >> >>> something illegal or unsavory public unless they give you 
> >> >>> money. In cases like this and with boycotts and public pressure 
> >> >>> on companies like Apple
> and
> >> >>> Nike for conditions in overseas manufacturing, it isn't 
> >> >>> extortion because the fundamental goal is to bring the 
> >> >>> information to light
> and
> >> >>> change the behavior rather than ask for money to let the 
> >> >>> behavior continue and remain secret.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Cheers,
> >> >>> Judah
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Scott Stroz 
> >> >>> <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > I have to say...I am torn by this.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > While I appreciate the fact that CFA will no longer donate 
> >> >>> > money
> to
> >> >>> > anti-gay groups, it kind of feels like...extortion - for lack 
> >> >>> > of a better word.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
> 



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