This is why I think we need a major institutional overhaul of the defense
system and industry in this country.

A lot of what we are doing and paying for simply isn't in our best national
interests anymore, and from last nights debate neither of these men ae
really going to be changing anything, it's funny they seemed to agree a
lot, but make a lot of noise about small differences.

On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Bruce Sorge <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> And since you seem to have your finger on the pulse of our national
> defense, maybe you should put your name in the hat for sec def. personally,
> as someone who has been through two military buildups and now two
> dismantlings, I vote for the build up. Look back in history. We always do
> this and it usually end up biting us in the ass later. Build up the
> military to fight wars, and when they are over, tear it apart to the point
> where we don't have money or resources to have any quality training, then
> go to war again with substandard equipment and soldiers who are only half
> ass trained, jump out our asses to get better equipment and hurry and give
> soldiers the right training. Rinse and repeat.
>
> Sent from my iPhone 4S.
>
> On Oct 23, 2012, at 12:31 PM, "Larry C. Lyons" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > So you assume he is lying just based on video images. You know that's
> > pretty impressive, have you thought about talking to the CIA or FBI
> > about that ability? I am sure they would find it very useful. No more
> > water-boarding needed.
> >
> > That reason for disliking the man is just so superficial. We don't
> > need a navy like we had in 1916. Times change and so do capacities.
> > That is what Obama was saying to some very antique policies.
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Bruce Sorge <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> That may be so but I have a low tolerance for people like Obama. I
> pretty much figure when his lips move he is lying so it doesn't matter what
> he says. As far as being shallow, so be it. Like everyone on this list I
> have my opinions and viewpoints that are hard to change, which is why I
> mostly avoid political or religious discussions on this list. And back to
> the original point, what he said was partly true as Tim and I pointed out.
> I did wish that Romney did not make his geographical flub though, but other
> than that I thought he did well and composed himself nicely. Again though,
> Obama came off as a jerk, which is what people will sometimes do when they
> are on the defensive.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone 4S.
> >>
> >> On Oct 23, 2012, at 12:07 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Truthfully? that is really sad.
> >>>
> >>> content is WAY more important than delivery.
> >>>
> >>> delivery over content is the very definition of shallow.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Bruce Sorge <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> It isn't what the information is, it's the delivery. You can spout
> all sorts of facts but I'd you come off as a jerk, then your just a
> knowledgable jerk and I tune you out.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
> 

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