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-----Original Message-----
From: LRS Scout [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 11:36 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Hopefully this is bullshi...


I don't like the Washington Times as a source, but it's the only place
really reporting on this.

Read some of what this volunteer has to say about the recount process.


On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 10:08 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote:

> I did, I thought it was the McCain law, but this has been in effect 
> since
> 96 so no excuse.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 10:02 PM, Larry C. Lyons
<[email protected]>wrote:
>
>>
>> look it up 
>> http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/part-I/chapter-113C
>>
>> I have good Google-fu.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:35 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > Never heard of that law, and with it you win :)
>> >
>> > Check mate.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:32 PM, Larry C. Lyons 
>> ><[email protected]
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> literally beside the ear. That is what happened to the guy. 
>> >> Besides
>> this
>> >> would have been a clear violation of  18 USC 113C Section 2340 US 
>> >> Anti-Torture Act
>> >>
>> >> (1) "torture" means an act committed by a person acting under the
>> color of
>> >> law specifically intended to
>> >> inflict severe physical or mental pain or su ering (other than 
>> >> pain or
>> su
>> >> ering incidental to lawful
>> >> sanctions) upon another person within his custody or physical 
>> >> control;
>> >> (2) "severe mental pain or suffering" means the prolonged mental 
>> >> harm caused by or resulting from -
>> >> (A) the intentional infliction or threatened infliction of severe
>> physical
>> >> pain or su ering;
>> >> (B) the administration or application, or threatened 
>> >> administration or application, of mindaltering substances or other 
>> >> procedures calculated
>> to
>> >> disrupt profoundly the senses or the personality;
>> >> (C) the threat of imminent death; or
>> >> (D) the threat that another person will imminently be subjected to
>> death,
>> >> severe physical pain or
>> >> suffering, or the administration or application of mind-altering
>> substances
>> >> or other procedures
>> >> calculated to disrupt profoundly the senses or personality;
>> >> ----
>> >>
>> >> So this is a clear violation here.
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:24 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > How far from my ear is my shoulder?
>> >> >
>> >> > Besides the M2 and MK-19 I ran.
>> >> >
>> >> > I have tinnitus and hearing loss rated by the VA.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:22 PM, Larry C. Lyons <
>> [email protected]
>> >> > >wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Not beside your ear.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:08 PM, LRS Scout 
>> >> > > <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > I assure you I've had more than one weapon fired near me, 
>> >> > > > even
>> at me
>> >> > > > thanks.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:06 PM, Larry C. Lyons <
>> >> [email protected]
>> >> > > > >wrote:
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > It damn well is torture. Tell you what time, next time 
>> >> > > > > we're
>> >> together
>> >> > > > I'll
>> >> > > > > borrow a 45 and put the muzzle beside your ear and shoot 
>> >> > > > > off a
>> >> round.
>> >> > > > When
>> >> > > > > you recover then you can tell me its not torture.
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > Frankly is about as much not torture as waterboarding.
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 5:18 PM, LRS Scout 
>> >> > > > > <[email protected]
>> >
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > He got beat because he went for a weapon.  Popping off a
>> round
>> >> near
>> >> > > him
>> >> > > > > > isn't torture.  Cops in the US have done similar things, 
>> >> > > > > > and
>> >> > actually
>> >> > > > > have
>> >> > > > > > much more leeway when dealing with prisoners than we do.
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > Making him think something isn't illegal.  The cops use 
>> >> > > > > > it
>> al the
>> >> > > time
>> >> > > > > and
>> >> > > > > > it's been found that lying and threatening are protected.
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Judah McAuley <
>> >> > [email protected]
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > > > wrote:
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > It means that guy got detained, beaten, threatened and 
>> >> > > > > > > was
>> made
>> >> > to
>> >> > > > > > believe
>> >> > > > > > > that he was about to die.
>> >> > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > That's Tim's version of "nothing" and I sure as hell 
>> >> > > > > > > won't
>> >> stand
>> >> > > for
>> >> > > > > it.
>> >> > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > Great way to protect our troops, torturing the guys 
>> >> > > > > > > that
>> are
>> >> > > supposed
>> >> > > > > to
>> >> > > > > > be
>> >> > > > > > > our allies. Hearts and minds, my friends.
>> >> > > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > > Judah
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