Obviously, Raymond, you did not read my piece, our you wouldn't run out the intellectually vapid argument of blaming the parents.
H. ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- from: "Raymond Camden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 10:29:07 -0400 >While I don't like Eminem - kids are not his problem. If the parents >have a problem with his music, it's their job to make sure the kids >don't get the CDs. >I can think of plenty of CDs, books, etc, that are not appropriate for >children, but that as an adult I enjoy. If the parent can't do their >job, it's their fault - not Eminems. > >-rc > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 10:26 AM >> To: CF-Community >> Subject: RE: Eminem >> >> >> Simon, >> >> That's the problem. Kids do take him seriously. >> >> Kevin >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 9:29 AM >> To: CF-Community >> Subject: RE: Eminem >> >> dude - Eminem rocks. People gotta stop taking him so >> seriously, though. >> >> ~Simon >> >> Simon Horwith >> Macromedia Certified Instructor >> Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer >> Fig Leaf Software >> 1400 16th St NW, # 500 >> Washington DC 20036 >> 202.797.6570 (direct line) >> www.figleaf.com >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 10:20 AM >> To: CF-Community >> Subject: Re: Eminem >> >> >> Yeah well I happen to be one of them that thinks the guy is a lyrical >> genius. >> Which you agree with albeit to a lesser degree. >> >> You should also therefore have issues with Snoop Dooggy Dog, >> Dr. Dre, Warren >> G,Ice Cube (Cop Killer)...and the list goes on and >> on..Marilyn Manson...The >> Beatles (in their day)...Iron Maiden...Black Sabbath...Pink >> Floyd...Madonna >> >> All these artists talk about dark periods in their life, >> going against the >> establishment sometimes violently, committing or urging to >> commit suicide, >> violence against others..sexual irresponsibility..I mean good grief. >> >> What Eminem is doing is nothing new, it is nothing that other >> artists have >> not done in the past, perhaps the only thing that is new is >> that Eminem is >> doing this at a point in time when America is facing a crisis >> with a new era >> of Political Correctness, or Censorship to call it what it really is. >> >> If this is the way Eminem feels, if he feels fame is a weight on his >> shoulders, if he beat his wife (something that SEVERAL >> artists have been >> accused of, some of which has been proven in courts of law), >> if he wants to >> SHOCK society into seeing whats out there beneath it >> all..then that's his >> choice. That is his form of expression, whether for >> commercial reasons, or >> just self expression. >> >> You are not a psychologist. You cannot make any judgements or try to >> psychoanalyse a commercial artist through their music. You >> can only analyse >> their MUSIC, not the artist himself. Have you ever sat with Eminem and >> TALKED to him..as a person? No. >> And I think any competent psychologist would tell you that you cannot >> psychoanalyse someone through their music. It would not give a true >> representation of that person. It would, perhapse instead, give a >> representation of YOU. >> >> To try to analyse the artist themselves is specious to the extreme. >> >> I'll point you to what I think is a much better review of Eminem's new >> ALBUM, which is incidentally called the eminem SHOW. >> I wonder why people watch Ultimate Fighting >> Championship...because they like >> the fights? >> Why do some people watch racing, to see the crashes? Why do >> Soap Operas that >> display twisted, dysfuntional lives of rich, attractive >> people appeal to >> such a broad audience..is it just the drama? >> What do you have to say about a show like A Clockwork Orange? >> Or Natural Born Killers?Are these representative of the true >> nature of the >> Director? The writer? The Producer?Are they all psychopaths >> because of the >> art they produce? >> Or because such art doesnt fit into some neat Moral Box? >> Should these all >> have been banned and censored, and not received 'corporate >> sponsorship'? >> Don't kids see these movies too? SO now its the fault of the >> artists, and >> what doesn't fit into the Box should be censored, because it >> would fill the >> minds of little kids with 'filth'.The prejudice that such a >> point of view >> contains is frightening. >> >> http://www.dotmusic.com/reviews/Albums/May2002/reviews25212.asp >> >> "Marshall Mathers III knows this, of course, which is why the >> title of album >> three tips a subtle, knowing nod to the ultimate reality >> project, The Truman >> Show. But if he was being truly honest, he would have found >> some way to >> twist a pun out of Groundhog Day. Because, like Bill Murray's >> character >> who's doomed to live out the same nightmare again and again >> (and like Jim >> Carrey's who is stuck in a suburban purgatory), Marshall is >> trapped within >> the character of Eminem." >> >> >http://www.laweekly.com/ink/02/30/music-wang.shtml >"WHAT MAKES EMINEM SO INFURIATING AND BRILLIANT is the cutting >self-awareness of his own pop phenomenon. You could pen volumes on the >racial politics behind his stardom, but on The Eminem Show's "White >America," Em's already beaten you to the punch, rhyming "Let's do the >math/If I was black/I would have only sold half" and laying down this >incredible coup de gr�ce, "Look at these eyes/baby blue/baby just like >yourself/If they were brown/Shady lose/Shady sits on the shelf" > >You should also listen to the song "White America" off his album. >-Angel > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Howard Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 1:08 AM >Subject: Eminem > > >> I know there some Eminem fans on this list, so you probably won't like >what >> I have to say about him, but here's my review of his latest release: >> >> >http://www.globalnewswatch.com/index.cfm?action=full_text&ARTICLE_ID=318 >&CAT >> EGORY_ID=12 >> >> H. > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
