hear hear On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 7:44 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I won't engage with you at all. > > You lost me with your "anointed one" crap at the beginning. > > I think that is crap. > > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 6:40 PM, Bruce Sorge <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > So Biden said that the anointed one might enact executive action and > > tighten gun control in the U.S. This means no vote in Congress. The AG is > > trying to figure out the details of whether or not this can be done, and > if > > so how to legally go about doing it. And the chosen one is also > endorsing a > > renewal of the assault weapons ban, improving background checks as well > as > > restricting the size of high capacity magazines. > > > > What I find interesting is that he would consider executive action. I > > mean, almost 50% of American's own weapons (according to 2010 data from > > http://justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp). I imagine that the number is a > > little higher now. That's a LOT of potentially pissed off people if this > > happens. > > > > What I also find interesting is that he wants to ban military assault > > weapons which is silly since according to another study ( > > http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcassaul.html) assault weapons > account > > for a mere .20% of all violent crimes that involved a gun. To be honest I > > don't know what good will come out of an assault weapons ban. I mean, > guys > > like Tim and I can clear a room just as easily with a Remington .223 > Ranch > > as we can with an M-4 or M-16. And they fire the same caliber of round. > > It's silly to assume that just because Bushmaster .223 rifles were used > in > > the Washington DC shootings and Newton, that banning these weapons will > > stop shootings. What if the shooter in Newton could not get his hands on > > this type of a weapon? What if his mother only had lets say a 30.06? I > > would imagine that he would have used that one instead. Of course we > won't > > ever know for sure. > > > > And of course let's look at a great example of how gun bans/control DON'T > > work - Chicago. I do not need to go into all the details since pro-gun > > activists are all over this and there are countless stories about this on > > the interwebs. And let's not forget Washington D.C. The murder rate there > > fell 25% once the gun ban was lifted according to the Washington Times > back > > in 2010. Oh, and it rose up considerably when the gun ban was enacted. > > > > I am all for tighter background checks (meaning more thorough). This is > > not an issue for law abiding citizens who are allowed to own a weapon. > What > > I also think should be done is to take a look at the silliness of some of > > the restrictions that are in place to allow people to own a firearm who > are > > in particular situations such as Tim's (apologies if I spoke out of line > > Tim). But, I feel that regardless of what laws may come, guns are here to > > stay and banning certain weapons and tightening control will not help > since > > criminals have always found a way to get a gun the same as they were able > > to get booze and make millions of dollars during prohibition. And > besides, > > no criminal ever saw a sign stating that an area was a gun free zone and > > decided to move on to where there were guns. When is the last time you > read > > about a mass shooting at a gun show or firing range? > > > > And speaking of making certain weapons illegal, I am sure cocaine, meth, > > acid, certain mushrooms, ecstasy and the like are still illegal, but yet > > tons of the stuff end up across our borders. Making something illegal > will > > not make it go away. > > > > The study done on justfacts.com is interesting, especially the part > where > > it shows how many citizens (not law enforcement and the like) > successfully > > defended themselves and/or their property with a weapon. I just wish the > > prez and others behind him would stop with the knee jerk reactions and > > starting talking about things more important, like what's going to happen > > to administration officials who are responsible for four American's dying > > senselessly four months ago. Or actually passing a budget. Or stop > > defunding the military and systematically dismantling it as is always the > > case post war. Or reducing our national debt. Or taking care of domestic > > issues. LIttle things like that. > > > > These are just my thoughts. Let the debating and name calling begin. > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:359821 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
