ok so this is where we broke down into confusion on facebook. I bow to your
expertise on what a trained shooter can do, but doesn't a semi-automatic
increase the lethal potential of an untrained whacko?

On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 9:17 AM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> I'm saying that yes, a capable man with a 10 shot bolt gun with optics can
> do far more damage than someone with a 30 round semi-auto.  Trained people
> don't spray and pray, we fire single aimed shots at point targets, and with
> a bolt action 300 win mag you can tap people near a mile away, through
> armor.  Something you certainly could never do with that AR.
> On Jan 10, 2013 12:10 PM, "Larry C. Lyons" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> > So you're telling me that someone with a single shot bolt action rifle
> > can do as much damage as an AR-15.
> >
> > Trained rifleman late 19th century using such a rifle (Martini-Henry
> > Rifle for instance) could fire around 10-20 rounds per minute on a
> > good day. A bushmaster in the hands of someone with minimal training
> > is anywhere from 45 to 120 rounds per minute.
> >
> > BTW that chart I noted previously showed that even though Canadian
> > firearms laws became increasingly more restrictive, the homicide rate
> > by other means remained relatively stable or even declined.
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 11:46 AM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > It's funny, Larry mentioned several failed states and genocides
> earlier.
> > > However if you look to sme of the very incidents he mentions you see it
> > is
> > > a person with a motive that kills, not the gun.  How many hundreds of
> > > thousands, even millions, were killed, tortured and disfigured with
> > > machetes?  How many would still be alive today if they had an AK under
> > the
> > > bed and a pistol on the night stand?
> > > On Jan 10, 2013 11:42 AM, "Jerry Barnes" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> "Gun control works if it's area wide.....country wide......it hasn't
> > >> worked in
> > >> America because it's isolated."
> > >>
> > >> Maybe we should mimic Mexico's gun control program.  It's nationwide
> and
> > >> very restrictive.  Works great.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> J
> > >>
> > >> -
> > >>
> > >> We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve
> the
> > >> national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a
> > civilian
> > >> national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just
> as
> > >> well-funded. - Barack Obama
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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