I didn't say want, I said would, the distinction is important.  I don't
want any of this, outside forces have conspired to bring us here.  Time and
again I've said I don't want to do or see violence here. It is ugly and
mean and something I hope never comes to pass.

There are however worse things in the world.

I hope your chains rest lightly about your shoulders.
On Jan 10, 2013 11:35 AM, "Jerry Milo Johnson" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Saying that you want and are willing to kill a person on this list is just
> wrong, Tim.
>
> Period.
>
> Not argument on that account.
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 11:32 AM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> > So I guess did Washington and Jefferon and Franklin and Paine and all the
> > rest?
> >
> > The root of this country is the willingness to kill and die for what you
> > believe.  No more, no less.  Where do you think the government derives
> all
> > of it's power?  At the barrel of a gun and inside the walls of a prison.
> > On Jan 10, 2013 11:29 AM, "Jerry Milo Johnson" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > And again you steered right off the crazy cliff.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 10:38 AM, LRS Scout <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I would sooner see you dead in the street.  I don't dislike you, and
> > > > actually have a good deal of resect for you and sympaty for your
> > beliefs,
> > > > but I would sooner kill you, and there are more then enough people
> that
> > > > agree with me that if enacted these kinds of laws will make this
> > country
> > > > collapse into the flame and blood of civil war.
> > > >
> > > > You do not have the right to do these things.  Period, the end dead
> > stop.
> > > > I'm not threatening you or anyone else, only reminding you that as
> > > > Americans we have another recourse outside the legal framework, and
> > that
> > > > 3-10% of us are more than willing to do whatever is necessary to
> defend
> > > our
> > > > inalienable natural god given rights.  Are you willing to kill and
> die
> > > for
> > > > this?
> > > >
> > > > I am.
> > > > On Jan 10, 2013 10:05 AM, "GMoney" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > OK.
> > > > >
> > > > > Outlaw the import, sale, manufacture and possession of hand guns.
> > > > >
> > > > > In the near term, only criminals will have hand guns...the rest of
> us
> > > > will
> > > > > have shot guns or rifles or whatever brand of assault rifle we see
> > fit.
> > > > As
> > > > > the years go by, the number of hand guns will decrease to the point
> > > where
> > > > > they are relatively rare.
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't pretend that there is any solution that represents a
> > panacea. I
> > > > > just know that hand guns are unnecessary, serve no purpose other
> than
> > > to
> > > > > aid criminals, we'd be better off without them, the status quo is
> > > > > unacceptable, and any short term pain required to make things
> better
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > long run...is worth it, in my opinion.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:56 AM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So, dispute it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > .
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 9:41 AM, Larry C. Lyons <
> > > [email protected]
> > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > can you parrot any other NRA talking point, I mean try for a
> > > trifecta
> > > > > > > here. Really Sam, ever try for anything original? That argument
> > is
> > > so
> > > > > > > cliched and old that its collecting social security. If that's
> > the
> > > > > > > best you can do why are you here?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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