My own opinion is that I've never liked the spray and pray approach I experience when on exercise with the US military (this is when I was with the Canadian Forces - at NATO Reforger and Able Archer). Our own emphasis was on "musketry" and aimed suppression fire. A very different approach.
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Bruce Sorge <[email protected]> wrote: > > That was more if a rhetorical statement and was not pointed at you Tim. > > Sent from my iPhone 4S. > > On Jan 10, 2013, at 1:01 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> I know this man, I speant a couple of years in weapons squads in the 82nd >> and the 29th. Yes the crew served weapons are our most casualty producing >> weapons. That doesn't really pertain to our current discussion however as >> legal machine guns have been used in exactly 1 crime since the inception of >> the NFA in the 30s. Beofre that you could mail order them. >> On Jan 10, 2013 12:42 PM, "Bruce Sorge" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> That's why we have machine guns. To spray the enemy and keep their heads >>> down. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone 4S. >>> >>> On Jan 10, 2013, at 12:17 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> I'm saying that yes, a capable man with a 10 shot bolt gun with optics >>> can >>>> do far more damage than someone with a 30 round semi-auto. Trained >>> people >>>> don't spray and pray, we fire single aimed shots at point targets, and >>> with >>>> a bolt action 300 win mag you can tap people near a mile away, through >>>> armor. Something you certainly could never do with that AR. >>>> On Jan 10, 2013 12:10 PM, "Larry C. Lyons" <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> So you're telling me that someone with a single shot bolt action rifle >>>>> can do as much damage as an AR-15. >>>>> >>>>> Trained rifleman late 19th century using such a rifle (Martini-Henry >>>>> Rifle for instance) could fire around 10-20 rounds per minute on a >>>>> good day. A bushmaster in the hands of someone with minimal training >>>>> is anywhere from 45 to 120 rounds per minute. >>>>> >>>>> BTW that chart I noted previously showed that even though Canadian >>>>> firearms laws became increasingly more restrictive, the homicide rate >>>>> by other means remained relatively stable or even declined. >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 11:46 AM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> It's funny, Larry mentioned several failed states and genocides >>> earlier. >>>>>> However if you look to sme of the very incidents he mentions you see it >>>>> is >>>>>> a person with a motive that kills, not the gun. How many hundreds of >>>>>> thousands, even millions, were killed, tortured and disfigured with >>>>>> machetes? How many would still be alive today if they had an AK under >>>>> the >>>>>> bed and a pistol on the night stand? >>>>>> On Jan 10, 2013 11:42 AM, "Jerry Barnes" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Gun control works if it's area wide.....country wide......it hasn't >>>>>>> worked in >>>>>>> America because it's isolated." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Maybe we should mimic Mexico's gun control program. It's nationwide >>> and >>>>>>> very restrictive. Works great. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> J >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve >>> the >>>>>>> national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a >>>>> civilian >>>>>>> national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just >>> as >>>>>>> well-funded. - Barack Obama >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:359936 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
