I've heard this was a problem in the 70s and 80s, but have never seen it myself. I'm an expert rifleman, you don't do that without single aimed shots, and proper BRM, breathing, site picture and squeeze.
You know as well as I do that real shooting is something easy and takes training and practice. On Jan 10, 2013 1:44 PM, "Larry C. Lyons" <[email protected]> wrote: > > My own opinion is that I've never liked the spray and pray approach I > experience when on exercise with the US military (this is when I was > with the Canadian Forces - at NATO Reforger and Able Archer). Our own > emphasis was on "musketry" and aimed suppression fire. A very > different approach. > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Bruce Sorge <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > That was more if a rhetorical statement and was not pointed at you Tim. > > > > Sent from my iPhone 4S. > > > > On Jan 10, 2013, at 1:01 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> > >> I know this man, I speant a couple of years in weapons squads in the > 82nd > >> and the 29th. Yes the crew served weapons are our most casualty > producing > >> weapons. That doesn't really pertain to our current discussion however > as > >> legal machine guns have been used in exactly 1 crime since the > inception of > >> the NFA in the 30s. Beofre that you could mail order them. > >> On Jan 10, 2013 12:42 PM, "Bruce Sorge" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> That's why we have machine guns. To spray the enemy and keep their > heads > >>> down. > >>> > >>> Sent from my iPhone 4S. > >>> > >>> On Jan 10, 2013, at 12:17 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>>> > >>>> I'm saying that yes, a capable man with a 10 shot bolt gun with optics > >>> can > >>>> do far more damage than someone with a 30 round semi-auto. Trained > >>> people > >>>> don't spray and pray, we fire single aimed shots at point targets, and > >>> with > >>>> a bolt action 300 win mag you can tap people near a mile away, through > >>>> armor. Something you certainly could never do with that AR. > >>>> On Jan 10, 2013 12:10 PM, "Larry C. Lyons" <[email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> So you're telling me that someone with a single shot bolt action > rifle > >>>>> can do as much damage as an AR-15. > >>>>> > >>>>> Trained rifleman late 19th century using such a rifle (Martini-Henry > >>>>> Rifle for instance) could fire around 10-20 rounds per minute on a > >>>>> good day. A bushmaster in the hands of someone with minimal training > >>>>> is anywhere from 45 to 120 rounds per minute. > >>>>> > >>>>> BTW that chart I noted previously showed that even though Canadian > >>>>> firearms laws became increasingly more restrictive, the homicide rate > >>>>> by other means remained relatively stable or even declined. > >>>>> > >>>>> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 11:46 AM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> It's funny, Larry mentioned several failed states and genocides > >>> earlier. > >>>>>> However if you look to sme of the very incidents he mentions you > see it > >>>>> is > >>>>>> a person with a motive that kills, not the gun. How many hundreds > of > >>>>>> thousands, even millions, were killed, tortured and disfigured with > >>>>>> machetes? How many would still be alive today if they had an AK > under > >>>>> the > >>>>>> bed and a pistol on the night stand? > >>>>>> On Jan 10, 2013 11:42 AM, "Jerry Barnes" <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> "Gun control works if it's area wide.....country wide......it > hasn't > >>>>>>> worked in > >>>>>>> America because it's isolated." > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Maybe we should mimic Mexico's gun control program. It's > nationwide > >>> and > >>>>>>> very restrictive. Works great. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> J > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> - > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve > >>> the > >>>>>>> national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a > >>>>> civilian > >>>>>>> national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, > just > >>> as > >>>>>>> well-funded. - Barack Obama > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:359937 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
