I do not. It is relevant, but I think the interpretation of parts of it is totally off. Specifically the ignoring of the well regulated militia.
and > Admit that you think the > constitution is archaic and should be ignored. At least then I would know > not to waste my time in discussion. That is utter crap. That is a totally inaccurate and taking things to a ridiculous extreme. As much as if I said that you wanted everyone to be armed with mass bloodletting every Wednesday at 3pm. You know better than that. On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:56 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote: > > Sorry should say "isn't something easy". > > Also, Larry could you please answer the last legal question I asked you. > Answer it honestly, even to yourself. Admit that you think the > constitution is archaic and should be ignored. At least then I would know > not to waste my time in discussion. > > With out the baseline foundation of the constitution we don't have common > grounds to even debate the laws suggested, as without the constitution the > government could do lierally whatever the hell it wanted. > On Jan 10, 2013 1:52 PM, "LRS Scout" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I've heard this was a problem in the 70s and 80s, but have never seen it >> myself. I'm an expert rifleman, you don't do that without single aimed >> shots, and proper BRM, breathing, site picture and squeeze. >> >> You know as well as I do that real shooting is something easy and takes >> training and practice. >> On Jan 10, 2013 1:44 PM, "Larry C. Lyons" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> My own opinion is that I've never liked the spray and pray approach I >>> experience when on exercise with the US military (this is when I was >>> with the Canadian Forces - at NATO Reforger and Able Archer). Our own >>> emphasis was on "musketry" and aimed suppression fire. A very >>> different approach. >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Bruce Sorge <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > >>> > That was more if a rhetorical statement and was not pointed at you Tim. >>> > >>> > Sent from my iPhone 4S. >>> > >>> > On Jan 10, 2013, at 1:01 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > >>> >> >>> >> I know this man, I speant a couple of years in weapons squads in the >>> 82nd >>> >> and the 29th. Yes the crew served weapons are our most casualty >>> producing >>> >> weapons. That doesn't really pertain to our current discussion >>> however as >>> >> legal machine guns have been used in exactly 1 crime since the >>> inception of >>> >> the NFA in the 30s. Beofre that you could mail order them. >>> >> On Jan 10, 2013 12:42 PM, "Bruce Sorge" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> That's why we have machine guns. To spray the enemy and keep their >>> heads >>> >>> down. >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone 4S. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jan 10, 2013, at 12:17 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> I'm saying that yes, a capable man with a 10 shot bolt gun with >>> optics >>> >>> can >>> >>>> do far more damage than someone with a 30 round semi-auto. Trained >>> >>> people >>> >>>> don't spray and pray, we fire single aimed shots at point targets, >>> and >>> >>> with >>> >>>> a bolt action 300 win mag you can tap people near a mile away, >>> through >>> >>>> armor. Something you certainly could never do with that AR. >>> >>>> On Jan 10, 2013 12:10 PM, "Larry C. Lyons" <[email protected]> >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> So you're telling me that someone with a single shot bolt action >>> rifle >>> >>>>> can do as much damage as an AR-15. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Trained rifleman late 19th century using such a rifle (Martini-Henry >>> >>>>> Rifle for instance) could fire around 10-20 rounds per minute on a >>> >>>>> good day. A bushmaster in the hands of someone with minimal training >>> >>>>> is anywhere from 45 to 120 rounds per minute. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> BTW that chart I noted previously showed that even though Canadian >>> >>>>> firearms laws became increasingly more restrictive, the homicide >>> rate >>> >>>>> by other means remained relatively stable or even declined. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 11:46 AM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> It's funny, Larry mentioned several failed states and genocides >>> >>> earlier. >>> >>>>>> However if you look to sme of the very incidents he mentions you >>> see it >>> >>>>> is >>> >>>>>> a person with a motive that kills, not the gun. How many hundreds >>> of >>> >>>>>> thousands, even millions, were killed, tortured and disfigured with >>> >>>>>> machetes? How many would still be alive today if they had an AK >>> under >>> >>>>> the >>> >>>>>> bed and a pistol on the night stand? >>> >>>>>> On Jan 10, 2013 11:42 AM, "Jerry Barnes" <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> "Gun control works if it's area wide.....country wide......it >>> hasn't >>> >>>>>>> worked in >>> >>>>>>> America because it's isolated." >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> Maybe we should mimic Mexico's gun control program. It's >>> nationwide >>> >>> and >>> >>>>>>> very restrictive. Works great. >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> J >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> - >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to >>> achieve >>> >>> the >>> >>>>>>> national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a >>> >>>>> civilian >>> >>>>>>> national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, >>> just >>> >>> as >>> >>>>>>> well-funded. - Barack Obama >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> >>> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:359945 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
