My problem is that there are just so many alternative explanations that are simpler and don't require divine intervention.
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 9:59 AM, GMoney <[email protected]> wrote: > > Yeah, the miracles can be pretty simplistic. In fact, I think I remember > reading about some of JP's "miracles" awhile back. So maybe the process has > already started. > > Saint or not, Karol Wojtyla (sp?) was a good man. > > On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected]>wrote: > >> >> In the canonization process (sounds like they're launching the remains >> with a cannon), don't they have someone who is supposed to be the >> official skeptic and whose job is to disprove the miracles. I think >> the name is Devil's Advocate. >> >> but typically the miracles are stuff like cancer being cured without >> other explanation that sort of thing. >> >> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 8:50 AM, GMoney <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > That's pretty cool. >> > >> > My father in law met and shook hands with JP2, and has several items that >> > he blessed and gave to him. >> > >> > I don't have any doubt that he will some day be canonized. There was lots >> > of talk of miracles while he was still alive. >> > >> > (The "miracles" clause for canonization always amused me a little bit. >> The >> > Catholics laud the story of Doubting Thomas...and emphasize Jesus' credo >> of >> > "blessed are they who have not seen, yet believe". And yet...to crown a >> > saint....they gotta see miracles baby!) >> > >> > On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 7:33 PM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> I don't think there will be another JP2 in our life time. >> >> >> >> Interesting (to me) side note. The former pastor at the church my wife >> >> attends gave me a rosary that was blessed by JP2 and was actually given >> to >> >> him by the Pope during his last public visit before he died. If he ever >> >> gets canonized, these would be considered a 2nd hand relic. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 10:34 AM, GMoney <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> > I never liked the guy......i'm predisposed to dislike popes as it >> >> is....but >> >> > JP 2 was a terrific force for good and peace around the world, i >> >> > thought....he was a good example of the capacity for good that the >> office >> >> > of pope can have. JP focused on helping children and reaching out to >> >> other >> >> > religions. He never condoned violence of any kind....he met with Bush >> >> > immediately after 9/11 and asked him not to retaliate violently. He >> took >> >> up >> >> > positions of peace and forgiveness even in matters where neither were >> >> > realistically possible....such as 9/11. He even forgave the guy who >> shot >> >> > him! >> >> > >> >> > i think that's exactly what the leader of 2+ billions people who >> purport >> >> to >> >> > support the teachings of Jesus Christ...should do. I hope the >> catholics >> >> > elect themselves another JP2. >> >> > >> >> > On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Larry C. Lyons < >> [email protected] >> >> > >wrote: >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > I heard it was his Hitler Youth background finally catching up with >> >> him. >> >> > > >> >> > > On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Larry C. Lyons < >> >> [email protected] >> >> > > >wrote: >> >> > > >> >> > > > 85 >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Bruce Sorge <[email protected]> >> >> wrote: >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> The guy is 91. >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> Sent from my iPhone 4S. >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> On Feb 11, 2013, at 9:48 AM, Cameron Childress < >> [email protected]> >> >> > > >> wrote: >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > Conspiracy? >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > -Cameron >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > .... >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:360815 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
