well yeah......but try telling that to a believer. Millions of people pray to God to cure their sick (insert family member)....said family member dies anyway. 1 person prays to God to cure their sick (insert family member).....and he/she survives seemingly miraculously.
the millions are forgotten, the 1 is remembered...God is great. On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected]>wrote: > > My problem is that there are just so many alternative explanations > that are simpler and don't require divine intervention. > > On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 9:59 AM, GMoney <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Yeah, the miracles can be pretty simplistic. In fact, I think I remember > > reading about some of JP's "miracles" awhile back. So maybe the process > has > > already started. > > > > Saint or not, Karol Wojtyla (sp?) was a good man. > > > > On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > >> > >> In the canonization process (sounds like they're launching the remains > >> with a cannon), don't they have someone who is supposed to be the > >> official skeptic and whose job is to disprove the miracles. I think > >> the name is Devil's Advocate. > >> > >> but typically the miracles are stuff like cancer being cured without > >> other explanation that sort of thing. > >> > >> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 8:50 AM, GMoney <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > >> > That's pretty cool. > >> > > >> > My father in law met and shook hands with JP2, and has several items > that > >> > he blessed and gave to him. > >> > > >> > I don't have any doubt that he will some day be canonized. There was > lots > >> > of talk of miracles while he was still alive. > >> > > >> > (The "miracles" clause for canonization always amused me a little bit. > >> The > >> > Catholics laud the story of Doubting Thomas...and emphasize Jesus' > credo > >> of > >> > "blessed are they who have not seen, yet believe". And yet...to crown > a > >> > saint....they gotta see miracles baby!) > >> > > >> > On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 7:33 PM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > > >> >> > >> >> I don't think there will be another JP2 in our life time. > >> >> > >> >> Interesting (to me) side note. The former pastor at the church my > wife > >> >> attends gave me a rosary that was blessed by JP2 and was actually > given > >> to > >> >> him by the Pope during his last public visit before he died. If he > ever > >> >> gets canonized, these would be considered a 2nd hand relic. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 10:34 AM, GMoney <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > I never liked the guy......i'm predisposed to dislike popes as it > >> >> is....but > >> >> > JP 2 was a terrific force for good and peace around the world, i > >> >> > thought....he was a good example of the capacity for good that the > >> office > >> >> > of pope can have. JP focused on helping children and reaching out > to > >> >> other > >> >> > religions. He never condoned violence of any kind....he met with > Bush > >> >> > immediately after 9/11 and asked him not to retaliate violently. He > >> took > >> >> up > >> >> > positions of peace and forgiveness even in matters where neither > were > >> >> > realistically possible....such as 9/11. He even forgave the guy who > >> shot > >> >> > him! > >> >> > > >> >> > i think that's exactly what the leader of 2+ billions people who > >> purport > >> >> to > >> >> > support the teachings of Jesus Christ...should do. I hope the > >> catholics > >> >> > elect themselves another JP2. > >> >> > > >> >> > On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Larry C. Lyons < > >> [email protected] > >> >> > >wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > I heard it was his Hitler Youth background finally catching up > with > >> >> him. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Larry C. Lyons < > >> >> [email protected] > >> >> > > >wrote: > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > 85 > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Bruce Sorge <[email protected] > > > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> The guy is 91. > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> Sent from my iPhone 4S. > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> On Feb 11, 2013, at 9:48 AM, Cameron Childress < > >> [email protected]> > >> >> > > >> wrote: > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >> > Conspiracy? > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >> > -Cameron > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >> > .... > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:360817 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
