I believe in limited government, not no government, as you well know.

You're the guest here, not me.
On May 9, 2013 5:09 PM, "Larry C. Lyons" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Really? Australia, New Zealand, Britain or Canada are not free?
>
> If your idea of freedom is to buy military grade weaponry in bulk, why not
> just move to the Sudan or Somalia.
>
>
> On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 5:06 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> > Well regulared != free
> > On May 9, 2013 5:01 PM, "Vivec" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Yes, sometimes just going elsewhere is the right move.
> > >
> > > No , government doesn't always need to step in.
> > >
> > > Price Fixing rules exist to protect consumers and to ensure a well
> > > regulated free market economy.
> > >
> > > A fair system of pricing and distribution refers to a company not
> > charging
> > > 100 US for a product in the United States, and 1000 US for that same
> > > product outside the United States for no reason other than profit and
> > > exploitation of foreign markets.
> > >
> > > Adobe stepped back from its overinflated pricing of Cloud Subscription
> in
> > >  Australia after consumer outrage, and now sells Cloud Subscriptions to
> > > Australia at close to the same price as the US, save for sales tax
> > > adjustment or something like that. So in that way, it was a win.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 9 May 2013 16:21, Cameron Childress <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Vivec wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Generally, protecting people from dangerous things.
> > > >
> > > > In a free market (even free-ish), setting prices should NEVER EVER be
> > > part
> > > > of these rules.
> > > >
> > > > Yes we differ here. You honestly feel that it is NEVER the right
> > answer?
> > > > That every single product out there should be super-regulated to the
> > > point
> > > > that they are REQUIRED to provide a quality product?
> > > > The government involvement in your own business in order to make that
> > > > actually happen should scare the living shit out of you.
> > > >
> > > > You can look at them but they have no place in this conversation.
> Adobe
> > > > doesn't have a monopoly. There are alternatives. Good ones.
> > > >
> > > > At the time, Microsoft did have a Monopoly.
> > > >
> > > > I feel like perhaps you don't use the same definition of the word
> > > > "Monopoly" that I do.
> > > >
> > > > Again, that's an entirely different conversation. Apples and oranges.
> > > > No-one is colluding to force you to buy PhotoShop instead of the
> > plethora
> > > > of alternatives out there.
> > > >
> > > > No, very clearly a whole different thing entirely.
> > > >
> > > > Ah, this we agree on. Consumers can get very very mad and stop buying
> > the
> > > > product. They can also complain all over Facebook and Twitter, then
> > open
> > > up
> > > > their window and shout obscenities in Adobe HQ's general direction.
> > They
> > > > can start petitions and form companies that they hope will one day
> put
> > > > Adobe out of business. These are all rights that consumers should
> have.
> > > >
> > > > None of these things require the government to step in.
> > > >
> > > > Clearly, I disagree.
> > > >
> > > > Again, you and I have very very different opinions on what the word
> > > > "Monopoly" means.
> > > >
> > > > Do you not believe that this is your choice, as a business owner? you
> > > think
> > > > that the government should step in and tell you who you can sell to
> and
> > > > what prices they should change? I don't. I bet you don't either, in
> > > > reality.
> > > >
> > > > This didn't work out so well in the Soviet Union. I would be curious
> to
> > > > know how your proposed governmental "Global Master Price Planning"
> > would
> > > > work exactly, and how it would not be a corrupt crappy shitstorm. I
> > would
> > > > also be curious what price they would tell you to charge for your
> goods
> > > and
> > > > services.
> > > >
> > > > I'm not sure if Adobe's pricing in Austrailia is a win? Not sure what
> > you
> > > > are saying here.
> > > >
> > > > -Cameron
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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