He responded...
:-) On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected]>wrote: > > I'm not to even dignify that with a response. > > > On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 5:58 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I believe in limited government, not no government, as you well know. > > > > You're the guest here, not me. > > On May 9, 2013 5:09 PM, "Larry C. Lyons" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Really? Australia, New Zealand, Britain or Canada are not free? > > > > > > If your idea of freedom is to buy military grade weaponry in bulk, why > > not > > > just move to the Sudan or Somalia. > > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 5:06 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Well regulared != free > > > > On May 9, 2013 5:01 PM, "Vivec" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, sometimes just going elsewhere is the right move. > > > > > > > > > > No , government doesn't always need to step in. > > > > > > > > > > Price Fixing rules exist to protect consumers and to ensure a well > > > > > regulated free market economy. > > > > > > > > > > A fair system of pricing and distribution refers to a company not > > > > charging > > > > > 100 US for a product in the United States, and 1000 US for that > same > > > > > product outside the United States for no reason other than profit > and > > > > > exploitation of foreign markets. > > > > > > > > > > Adobe stepped back from its overinflated pricing of Cloud > > Subscription > > > in > > > > > Australia after consumer outrage, and now sells Cloud > Subscriptions > > to > > > > > Australia at close to the same price as the US, save for sales tax > > > > > adjustment or something like that. So in that way, it was a win. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 9 May 2013 16:21, Cameron Childress <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Vivec wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Generally, protecting people from dangerous things. > > > > > > > > > > > > In a free market (even free-ish), setting prices should NEVER > EVER > > be > > > > > part > > > > > > of these rules. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes we differ here. You honestly feel that it is NEVER the right > > > > answer? > > > > > > That every single product out there should be super-regulated to > > the > > > > > point > > > > > > that they are REQUIRED to provide a quality product? > > > > > > The government involvement in your own business in order to make > > that > > > > > > actually happen should scare the living shit out of you. > > > > > > > > > > > > You can look at them but they have no place in this conversation. > > > Adobe > > > > > > doesn't have a monopoly. There are alternatives. Good ones. > > > > > > > > > > > > At the time, Microsoft did have a Monopoly. > > > > > > > > > > > > I feel like perhaps you don't use the same definition of the word > > > > > > "Monopoly" that I do. > > > > > > > > > > > > Again, that's an entirely different conversation. Apples and > > oranges. > > > > > > No-one is colluding to force you to buy PhotoShop instead of the > > > > plethora > > > > > > of alternatives out there. > > > > > > > > > > > > No, very clearly a whole different thing entirely. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ah, this we agree on. Consumers can get very very mad and stop > > buying > > > > the > > > > > > product. They can also complain all over Facebook and Twitter, > then > > > > open > > > > > up > > > > > > their window and shout obscenities in Adobe HQ's general > direction. > > > > They > > > > > > can start petitions and form companies that they hope will one > day > > > put > > > > > > Adobe out of business. These are all rights that consumers should > > > have. > > > > > > > > > > > > None of these things require the government to step in. > > > > > > > > > > > > Clearly, I disagree. > > > > > > > > > > > > Again, you and I have very very different opinions on what the > word > > > > > > "Monopoly" means. > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you not believe that this is your choice, as a business owner? > > you > > > > > think > > > > > > that the government should step in and tell you who you can sell > to > > > and > > > > > > what prices they should change? I don't. I bet you don't either, > in > > > > > > reality. > > > > > > > > > > > > This didn't work out so well in the Soviet Union. I would be > > curious > > > to > > > > > > know how your proposed governmental "Global Master Price > Planning" > > > > would > > > > > > work exactly, and how it would not be a corrupt crappy > shitstorm. I > > > > would > > > > > > also be curious what price they would tell you to charge for your > > > goods > > > > > and > > > > > > services. > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure if Adobe's pricing in Austrailia is a win? Not sure > > what > > > > you > > > > > > are saying here. > > > > > > > > > > > > -Cameron > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:363475 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
