There was around a 10 point difference but the sample differences where in
the 30 point range. I'm guessing / exaggerating because I don't feel like
looking it up but you get the idea.

.


On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected]>wrote:

>
> To expand when doing statistical sampling you want a representative sample
> of the overall population. Very large scale surveys and the census have
> indicated that there are more Democratic than Republican voters.
>
> What you would want - equal numbers of Democrats and Republicans, is a
> false equivalence. That sort of sample does not reflect the population as a
> whole. Any trends or averages within such a skewed sample would not
> necessarily reflect similar trends or averages within the overall
> population. Hunter, Schmidt, and Jackson (1982) provide a very good
> example. In a Monte Carlo simulation they pulled a series of samples and
> calculated the population relationship. Those samples that were at
> significant variance from the population structure tended to have the
> greatest variability in their estimates of the population relationships.
>
> So the changes of a survey artificially boosting the number of Republicans
> would tend to be less predictive than one structured like the overall
> population. So seriously what would be more predictive, a cherry picked
> sample or one that is structurally very similar to the overall population.
>
>
> Hunter, J., Schmidt, F., and Jackson, G. (1982). *Meta-Analysis: Cumulating
> research findings across studies.*Beverly Hills CA: Sage.
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 9:00 AM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected]
> >wrote:
>
> > No Jerry that is demographics. You know how the over all population is
> > made up of?
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:49 PM, Jerry Barnes <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "I remember Jerry and Sam proselytizing that the polls were biased to
> the
> >> Democrats. They said that the majority of people questioned were
> >> Democrats, and
> >> so the polls were all skewed."
> >>
> >> The internals for these polls showed over and over again a larger
> >> percentage of Democrats than Republicans.  That is bias.
> >>
> >>
> >> "They mentioned that the 'correct' polls showed Romney winning."
> >>
> >> I don't know who "they" is.  I didn't mention any correct polls.
> >>
> >>
> >> I'll admit I thought Romney would win.  I underestimated the willingness
> >> of
> >> Americans to except an real unemployment rate of 20+% and a
> >> corrupt/incompetent administration.
> >>
> >> J
> >>
> >> -
> >>
> >> Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad
> reputation.
> >> - Henry Kissinger
> >>
> >> Politicians are people who, when they see light at the end of the
> tunnel,
> >> go out and buy some more tunnel. - John Quinton
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
> 

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