Let's blame Bush. .
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Judah McAuley <[email protected]> wrote: > > It's awful, but it isn't unparalleled. Total Information Awareness started > in 2002, shortly after the Sept 11th attacks. I wouldn't be surprised if > the basic plans were discussed previously but we know that they really > started getting implemented starting in 2002. > > I absolutely believe that the Obama administration has pushed the agenda > and, as technology has gotten better and companies have gotten used to > complying with NSLs and other extra-judicial crap, I'm sure that it has > gotten easier and smoother to implement. But it is hardly unparalleled. > This has been going on hard core for 10 years. > > People are maybe just starting to wake up to it a bit now. > > Judah > > > On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 4:34 AM, Vivec <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > All records, regardless of whether the citizen is the focus of an > > investigation or not. ALL. > > I wonder how many doors will be broken down after they get through with > the > > data mining? > > > > Something you would expect from China or Russia is happening right now. > > > > Have you spoken to someone in the US today? What did you talk about? > Could > > anything you said be misconstrued by someone listening? ;-) > > > > > > > > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/06/nsa-phone-records-verizon-court-order > > > > "The National Security Agency is currently collecting the telephone > records > > of millions of US customers of Verizon, one of America's > > largesttelecoms<http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/telecoms> > > providers, under a top secret court order issued in April. > > > > The order, a copy of which has been obtained by the Guardian, requires > > Verizon on an "ongoing, daily basis" to give the NSA information on all > > telephone calls in its > > systems< > > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/interactive/2013/jun/06/verizon-telephone-data-court-order > > >, > > both within the US and between the US and other countries. > > > > The document shows for the first time that under the Obama administration > > the communication records of millions of US citizens are being collected > > indiscriminately and in bulk regardless of whether they are suspected > of > > any wrongdoing." > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:364272 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
