We have people that still rob banks, murder, steal, rape,  and commit other
crimes, it doesn't mean that the system needs replacing.  It just means that
you are always going to have people cheating and gaming the system.  It is
why we have laws in the first place.

-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 4:09 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Americans Believe Welfare is Biggest Contributor to Continued
Poverty


Wouldn't  "some" individuals committing fraud indicate that the system is
not working? That the laws are not being enforced? If even if that "some" is
only 2% of the nation, that's still about six million people committing
fraud. So if the system is working, and laws are being enforced, how then
can millions be cheating the system and getting away with it? 





On Jun 10, 2013, at 5:02 PM, Maureen <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
> There is a difference in the fraud committed on the system by a some 
> individuals, which certainly exists,  and Tim's accusation of 
> corruption within the system itself and a failure to enforce the laws.
> 
> On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Bruce Sorge <[email protected]> wrote:
>> s,
>> In a court of law yes. In this instance, no.  And I have provided
numerous links to stories of rampant welfare fraud, waste and abuse in a
previous discussion about this very issue. Of course some people on this
list are quick to dismiss these stories for some reason which I'd have to go
back and look up, but of course I won't because I have seen fraud first hand
over a period of several years and I don't think I need to look up these
sources again, and their reasons are not very good (something like they have
not seen this happen so it does not happen, not sure). So, how about putting
up some links that show everything is fine and there's nothing to see here.
> 
> 



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